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Gene&Mary
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject: Mixing kerosene and Kleen Heat |
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I have always used kerosene in the Wallas Heater but saw some Kleen Heat for sale last week at Home Depot.
Is there a problem mixing the two? Do I need to clean out the reservoir if I start using Kleen Heat?
I know this has been discussed before but which one does everyone think is best?
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Doryman
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 3807 City/Region: Anacortes
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Mixing kerosene and Kleen Heat |
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Gene&Mary wrote: | Is there a problem mixing the two? Do I need to clean out the reservoir if I start using Kleen Heat? |
Very good question, as I will have the same situation fairly soon, when my tank of diesel runs down and I switch to Kleen Heat. Absent any advice here to the contrary, I plan to simply dump the Kleen Heat into the almost-empty Wallas container.
Warren _________________ Doryman
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TomCat 255, Hull #55, 150 Yamahas
Anacortes, WA
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colobear
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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I have mixed diesel, kerosene and Kleen-Heat in the same tank for my Webasto with no ill effects. I had asked sure marine, the Webasto supplier about mixing and they said there was no problem. YMMV. _________________ Patti and Barry
formerly C-Cakes, now
rving around N. America |
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CAVU
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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When I bought my boat several years ago(used) it had a half jug of diesel. I used most of it, emptied the rest, added Kleen-Heet with no ill effects. The diesel left in the lines didn't seem to effect it and the transition to Kleen-Heet was not even noticeable. _________________ Ken Trease
22 CD Cruiser, CAVU
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CW
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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If the change from diesel to clean heat provided no noticeable change.... why use anything but diesel (readily available, and I'm guessing, cheapest)? Or is it like using clean burning lamp oil in an indoor lantern instead of smoky kerosene? C.W. _________________ "The West is the Best... Just get here and we'll do the rest." Jim Morrison |
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colobear
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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I changed from diesel because the sure marine/Webasto folks said kerosene would help the furnace last longer. I have not noticed any difference in performance. |
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CAVU
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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CW,
I changed because of concern about the storage life of diesel left in the system over winter storage. I winterize and store my boat for 6-7 months each winter. I believe the Kleen-Heet has a better storage life than diesel. |
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Hunkydory
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2720 City/Region: Cokeville, Wyoming
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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CW wrote: | If the change from diesel to clean heat provided no noticeable change.... why use anything but diesel (readily available, and I'm guessing, cheapest)? Or is it like using clean burning lamp oil in an indoor lantern instead of smoky kerosene? C.W. |
Excellent comparison and the main reason we switched the others being better start ups and less fouling of the burner, which I guess is really the same thing.
Jay _________________ Jay and Jolee 2000 22 CD cruiser Hunkydory
I will not waste my days in trying to prolong them------Jack London
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Dreamer
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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It seems that the new Ultra low sulfur diesel fuel would work well in the Wallas. Has anybody tried it? _________________ Roger
Once a C-Brat, always a C-Brat
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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I had a brief conversation with Les at EQ when we stopped by last fall. I had stopped to ask him about the question of mingling of different fuels during a changeover, and he told me that it was his understanding that the Wallas stove/heater had been designed for ultra low sulfur diesel fuel since that is the only diesel available in Europe.
My plan is to simply fill up with the new low sulfur diesel and see what I get.
Paul Priest
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Hunkydory
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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At least one of our personal vehicles have been diesel powered since l979 and at different periods of my life I've run different heavy equipment all powered by diesel. Low sulfur or not you can't get away from the stink. Spill just a few drops or have the exhaust drift back to the cabin or cockpit and I think you will be thinking kleen-heat is worth the price.
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CAVU
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:31 am Post subject: |
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Like every aspect of boating in all depends on how you use your boat and heater. I wouldn't hesitate to use diesel if I needed stove fuel and couldn't get Kleen-Heet. Or if I were able to use my boat year-round. My use of the Wallas is such that I seldom go through more than a gallon per year and coupled with long periods of storage, I feel than the Kleen-Heet is a better fit for me. |
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Forty Two
Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 114 City/Region: Prince William Sound
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:03 am Post subject: |
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colobear wrote: | I have mixed diesel, kerosene and Kleen-Heat in the same tank for my Webasto with no ill effects. I had asked sure marine, the Webasto supplier about mixing and they said there was no problem. YMMV. |
Me too. Nice clean diesel, kerosene, and Kleen-Strip. No fuel problems after 3 boating seasons. _________________ John & Susan |
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dogon dory
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Dora~Jean
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Dan, excellent summary, very informative, well done, thanks. _________________ Steve & Carmen
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