Retromarine 21

bschuman3@comcast.net · Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:32 am Post subject: Retromarine 21

hello, my husband and I like the trailable trawlers. The one we are consideting is 21foot Retromarine with 8.6 beam. The dealer is in Mass . andis telling us that the boat will so 1-2 gallons per hour. We are more familiar with the fishing boats so this is too good to believe. The question is. Does anyone on this forum has any experience with this boat and how does it ride on the Chesapeake Bay. No one in the area has one for us to try out. Sorry I know you guys are C-rangers but probably know more about the trawels than we do thanks. bill s.

Captains Cat · Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:44 am Post subject:

Kind of a cool looking boat. Don't think I've ever seen one on the water.

As you said though, this is a C-Dory site. Lots of them around, you can probably find one to drive too!

Charlie

Sea Wolf · Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:12 pm Post subject:

I'm just looking at the picture, never having seen one, but it looks like it has a LOT of WINDAGE with the high cabin and bow, and is a little short on freeboard in the cockpit to the rear.

Chesapeake Bay, from what I've read, would demand less of the former and more of the latter.

And just another nitpicking thought:

How small can you make a boat and still call it a "trawler" or a "tug"?

Sorry for the $0.02!

Joe.

"Pocket Pilothouse!" Tug, Trawler, Tender, or Toy?

Wefings · Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject:

http://www.seawayboats.com Check out the 21 Coastal
Very proven hull......... Good folks . Oh wait, this is a C Dory forum...............
Marc[/img]

Sea Wolf · Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject:

Very interesting!

The Retromarine 21 and the Seaways 21 Coastal are very similar, and their dimensions put them pretty much in the same ballpark as the C-Dory 22.

However, the first two are very open boats, whereas the CD-22 has an enclosed pilothouse / Alaskan bulkhead.

I'd say the first two would make good summer / sailing season boats, whereas the C-Dory would make (an does) a much better all-weather / all season /weatherbeater.

Would be fun to have the real boats side by side! (along with the Ranger 21 Tug!)

Joe.

Retromarine 21........................................................................................................................................................Seaway Coastal 21..............................................................................................Ranger 21 EC

C-Dory 22 Cruiser

flapbreaker · Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: Retromarine 21

thataway · Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject:

1 gallon an hour for a gas engine will get you about 14 hp and 2 gallons an hour will get you about 28 hp. If you fit the boat with a 15 hp engine--and keep the speed down to 6 knots, you will be getting an gallon an hour.
There is no free lunch. If you plane the boat, you will most likely be using at least 50 hp--and probably closer to 70 hp--and up to 5 gallons an hour.

I would not suggest an open boat for the Chesapeake--if you want to stick to protected waters and rivers--it would work fine. But the Chesapeake can get pretty nasty when you have a squall, or even moderate wind against current.

A lot depends on what you want to do with any boat.

drjohn71a · Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject:

You can cruise a TomCat at 1.7-2 gallons per hour if you're running at 5-7 knots! I bet a CD22 has incredible fuel efficiency.

Those are cute looking little lobster boats!

John

Alyssa Jean · Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject:

Overall I get a gallon an hour with my 16 and a 40 Johnson. I go by my engine hours meter to know when I am in need of fuel.

thataway · Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject:

One really wants to know miles per gallon--that is what is important--not gallons an hour. How far can you go? You can idle a motor for an hour at a dock and only use a quart--but you have gone no where! Many boaters do a lot of idling--fishing, going in no wake zones etc...but when you want to know range--that is how far can you go on a gallon of fuel.

westward · Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:48 pm Post subject:

Our parameters for purchase were defined by the first mate: She insisted on a "door that closes, no canvas". She gave her blessings for purchasing a new boat, as long as it was another C-Dory. Chicks dig staying warm! Mike.