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chromer



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TPBrady,

What year/size was your E-Tec? Mine has no problems like you had. I have this plug thing to do once a year now, but my oiling/economy is great. I did have a bushing/stacking problem in throttle return after 100 hours (a mechanical thing) that they fixed for me.

Maybe BRP has the 3-year service thing, because they know you will be in sooner Xmas LOL
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tom&shan



Joined: 21 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:44 am    Post subject: New Etec Reply with quote

With our E-Tec the add oil light came on at 36 hours, filled up the tank and have been watching to see how fast it burns the next tank.
Always have a little soot on the engine each time we come back, not sure is that's normal. My only complaint is it seems a little louder than I thought it would be - but on a open 19 I guess thats to be expected. It is quieter than the 1990 Yamaha 50 I had on my 16.

Cheers,
Tom
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tpbrady



Joined: 08 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chromer,

It was a 2005 90 Saltwater variety(white). It had right at 260 hours on it. After looking at Tom and Shan's numbers, my oil alarm came on in about half the time. The last long trip out, I used 49 oz of oil, 40 gallons of gas, in a little less than 9 engine hours. The tank holds 96 oz. That would mean totally out of oil in 18 hours with an oil alarm at 16.

Tom

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chromer



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont keep real good notes, but I do believe in my young 144 hours - i've probably replinished that oil tank 4 times. That burn rate is right inline with Dakota's. Maybe when we get up to 260 hours, everything will crumble you think? I should hit that mark later in the summer, I will let you know.
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Grumpy Man



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For what is worth I have almost 300 hrs on a 115 E-Tek with no problems. 4.1 to 4.6 MPG 60 hrs of running = 1 gal of oil. After 3 days of puking rain in rivers Inlet Last week I found this on the end of my line Very Happy
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John from IL



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tpbrady wrote:
The last long trip out, I used 49 oz of oil, 40 gallons of gas, in a little less than 9 engine hours. The tank holds 96 oz. That would mean totally out of oil in 18 hours with an oil alarm at 16.

Tom


So that's about 3 pints of oil for 40 gallons of fuel. A little better than 100:1.

What was wrong with that??

-John
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tpbrady



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was using XD-50 oil I wouldn't have a complaint. Look at Grumpy's numbers. 60 hours and 128oz. Conservatively he probably averaged 3 gals per hour over all the hours. That's right at 150:1. Oil consumption is supposed to increase as RPM goes up. My oil consumption was highest at low RPM.

Tom
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C-WEED



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's right at 150:1. Oil consumption is supposed to increase as RPM goes up. My oil consumption was highest at low RPM.

Tom: Double check on the E-Tec oil mix at rpm's. The last I read up on the old VRO system (about 20 years ago) it did exactly opposit of what you would expect. It injected a lot more oil at trolling/low rpm's than it did at high rpm's.

I think the E-TEC does the same thing.

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tpbrady



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris,

I was told just the opposite with the ETEC. The ICOMA test for the ETEC oil consumption shown on the BRP website is highly slanted to toward low rpm operation. Theoretically if you ran this profile, you would get 50 hours out of a tank of XD-100.

Tom
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cemiii



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK guys, I did it. Bought a used 08' etec 90 (in line 3) less than 30 hours.
It was a 25" brute. The 25's use the big V6 lower gearcase, while the 20"ers, at least through 08, use the small gearcase. A dealer put the motor on a pontoon and the customer wanted a short shaft and the dealer accomodated him and cut her losses selling the 25 at such a deal. The big gearcase uses the big props (14.25- 16") the 20" is limited to 14" or less.

Created a few problems but I think it worked out great. I beefed up the transom big time as I had a seperation issue a while back. Used some of Sea Wolf's advice. Put a 17 1/4" high x24" wide 3/8" alum 6061 plate on the back, 5/8" x 24" backer plate on the inside of the transom well. 3/8" 6x6 backer plates at the bottom.

I got a CMC manual Jack plate (it's a serious 1/2" plate). between the jack plates 5.5" setback and 5" rise and using the abdolute highest rise holes on both the motor and plate, I get the motor to precisely the hieght needed to match the anti-c plate with the boat bottom plane. Unfortunately this leaves me with no more lift range on the jack plate. I am seriously considering adding another 3/4"plate to lift another 3.5- 4" so that I get back the jack plate range for fine tuning, but I'll try this first. The second unfortunate is that the weight I added largely offsets the weight saving of ETEc over 4 stroke. A big positive though is that the motor lines up perfectly with my 4 Stk. kicker. I have added Sea Star hydro steering new controls and wiring gauges and a s1000 AP which will now control both motors with complete simple tie bar connection. Should make the whole port side kicker mount thing a dream.

There is absolutely no problems with the steering and Jack Plate to 100% tilt. But it is getting really iffy if I don't need to go to a dual axle trailer now. Things you don't fully pre-think!

I put a few pics at the end of the album. will try to get better pics. soon.
Have yet to put it in the water. Still having a few S1000 problems. Hopefully it will not stand on end and pull a titanic on me.

Been spending about 90% hours upgrading 10% on the water but that will soon change, hopefully, and it's dern near as much fun as using them.

and, oh yah, it's darn nice owning a bobcat to lift these babies on and off!

Chris
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