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captd
Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 514 City/Region: Chain of Lakes
State or Province: MT
C-Dory Year: 1994
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Kon Tiki
Photos: Hunky Dory
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:34 am Post subject: 22 ft. Hunky Dory, Less money |
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C-Brats,
Marc just informed me that they lowered the price on the Hunky Dory to $37,500. God, after all the money I put in that thing I ought to buy it back. It has about every option you can think off. I left the outriggers with it. The stainless work I just completed was over $2500. What a deal!!!
Captd. _________________ 100 ton Master
1986 Sport Craft 27 ft , 240 hrs Yanmar sold
2000 22 ft C-Dory (Hunky Dory) sold 2006
2007 25 R Ranger (Mis Dee) sold 2008
2009 25 R Ranger (Lucky Fin) sold
1994 22 ft C-Dory ( Kon Tiki ) |
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Dave in Alaska
Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 11 City/Region: Anchorage
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1985
C-Dory Model: 22 Classic
Vessel Name: Sea-weet
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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I would love to look at it, but it went souheast instead of northwest! |
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BrentB
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 4420 City/Region: Greenwood
State or Province: IN
Photos: BrentB
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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I just read the for sale listing at http://www.boattraderonline.com/addetail.html?87585077
How many hours on the engines?
2000 C Dory 22 Cruiser, 22' 0'' Hunky Dory, This recent trade in has been painstakingly maintained and upgraded for fishing, camping and adventure cruising. Twin 40 hp Honda outboards, custom stainless top rack with Furuno radar, Furuno GPS (fixed), Furuno depth sounder, VHF radio, Stereo, Xm radio mount and antennae, 20 gal live bait tank, down rigger, s5000 auto helm (hydraulic), 800 lb anchor winch with chain and rode, Hydraulic steering, travel boot, full camper package with screens and canvas (blue), edge bound carpet, privacy curtains, screens for all windows and door, wash down pump, 30 amp shore power service, Wallas diesel stove, red wood shelving under sink, added factory level cockpit boarding ladder off bow, side and climb up on rack, sight fishing pedestal pin seat for top rack (removable), bottom paint. EZ-Loader single axle trailer with brakes and spare tire. This boat is well-traveled and has been used and enjoyed by it's previous owner from Alaska to the Bahamas and has the highest level of equipment of any used C-Dory 22-Cruiser available in the country.
It should sell fast. _________________ Brent Barrett |
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Robbi
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 1193 City/Region: Chambers Bay
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2023
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Photos: C-Run
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Heck, it would be worth it just for the anchor . Robbi _________________ 2023 C-Dory 23 Venture Sport
2003 C-Dory 19
sold 2019
2004 C-Dory 16 Cruiser
Sold 8/2015
2004 C-Dory 19 "C-Run"
Sold 8/2011
1989 C-Dory 16 Angler
Sold 2010 |
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wthattny
Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 26 City/Region: Conifer
State or Province: CO
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Just talked to Buzz at Wefings. I'm gonna go see it. The roof rack was a great idea.
Went to see the 1987 22' Cruiser in Utah last two days, and was disappointed. It has the wood grain plywood and that makes it look quite worn. No extras at all, but the hull has been well taken care of. _________________ Interlopers in a Maritime Challenger (soon). |
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Jack in Alaska
Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1190 City/Region: Anchorage/Ninilchik
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 26 Pro Angler
Vessel Name: HIGH TIDE II
Photos: HIGH TIDE II
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:53 am Post subject: Not plywood |
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That is not wood grained plywood on the older CD's. It is like a Formica surface and yes it gets to look crummy with age.
I painted mine (1983 model)several years ago with epoxy white paint and it looks like new and brightens the boat. _________________ On the HIGH TIDE-II, wife Carolyn and I.....Another summer fishing on the HIGH TIDE II in the Cook Inlet at Cape Ninilchik, Alaska.
HIGH TIDE-II; 2005 26' ProAngler; 2003 200 Honda / 2009 9.9 Honda high thrust
No. CD026021I405; AK-5008-AK
MSSI No. 338143486(cancelled)
HIGH TIDE; 1983 Angler Classic 22'; 90 Honda/ 9.9 Tohatsu-sold 2009 to son Dan (flatfishfool)
Stolen & stripped in Aug. 18
Bare hull & trailer sold in Nov. |
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wthattny
Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 26 City/Region: Conifer
State or Province: CO
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Ok, I just put a deposit on the Hunky Dory! Man, my wife and I are super excited! The extras that Cap'n D installed really sealed it for us. What a great boat. |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
Photos: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: Not plywood |
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Jack in Alaska wrote: | That is not wood grained plywood on the older CD's. It is like a Formica surface and yes it gets to look crummy with age.
I painted mine (1983 model)several years ago with epoxy white paint and it looks like new and brightens the boat. |
That wood-grained Formica-like stuff is called Decraguard. It's tough stuff and wears well, generally.
Inside the boat, you'd have to be really abusive to get it to show wear.
When it's used on the exterior, it can fade if left out in the sun/ultraviolet light for long periods, like when moored in the open or left on the trailer uncovered.
The "Classic" 1980-86 models had the entire rear cabin bulkhead and door made of Decraguard. With the intrduction of the CD-22 "Cruiser" in 1987 and for several years thereafter, the cabin door was the only exterior item made of Decraguard. Thereafter, the door was converted to white Decraguard, then, more recently, to a clear plastic (Lexan?)
Not too much can be done with the Decraguard once it's really faded, and opaque paint is the easiest answer. The door and/or bulkhead usually look good painted in white or the hull trim color. I like the bulkhead painted in off-white to match the hull, and the door in the trim color.
If you catch the process early enough, you can darken and save the wood-grain appearance of the Decraguard. My CD-22 was 11 years old when I got it, and when wetted down, the wood-grain still looked fine.
I considered a couple of different coating options, and decided to use Varathane Diamond Glaze Polyurethane clear finish on it inside and out on it to shine it up and darken the look. I think I used satin, but it might have been gloss. Had to re-apply the exterior door once, after about 7 years. Still looks good.
One could also use something darker that might hide some of the bleaching/fading as an alternative. I think I remember someone using Cetol on the Decraguard.
Be sure to use something with a ultraviolet inhibitor in it that will limit the rate of deterioration as much as possible. I'd stay away from soft finishes, too.
Whatever one does, they should carefully test/check the new finish out for appearance carefully before committing to the whole project.
Sorry to go off on a tangent, but I know there are folks out there that can use this information!
Joe. _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
 
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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wthattny
Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 26 City/Region: Conifer
State or Province: CO
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:57 am Post subject: Decraguard |
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Joe, the boat "Little Toot" for sale in Utah has been garaged for all its 20 years, so the exterior including the cabin door is in great shape. What I noticed, and what disappointed me, was the interior.
The wood grain pattern on the formica skin of the marine plywood is of course very thin. On the floor under the table, on the countertops and table itself, the pattern was here and there rubbed off due to scuffing or scratching. In addition to the appearance of wear, seemed to me the whole interior had a '70's look of cheap paneling.
Now, keep in mind this was my first impression of a C-Dory after months of study but never before seeing one in person. So, my expectations were high, and they may have been colored also by the barnyard smell of the interior - no doubt due to the boat being stored in . . . the owner's barn.
Seems to me that if someone could suggest a way of permanently covering the wood grain, like paint or epoxy, that would go a long way to improving the appearance of these vintage boats - which are of course great boats with all the important features of the modern C-Dory.
- Bill - |
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8556 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
Photos: Daydream and Crabby Lou
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Congrats on your purchase! I always loved the pictures of that seat up on top, a lot of ingenuity went into that rack and seat! You will get lots of enjoyment out of this for sure!
wthattny wrote: | Ok, I just put a deposit on the Hunky Dory! Man, my wife and I are super excited! The extras that Cap'n D installed really sealed it for us. What a great boat. |
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DAYDREAM - CD25 Cruiser
CRABBY LOU - CD16 Angler (sold 2020)
Pat & Patty Anderson, C-Brat #62!
http://daydreamsloop.blogspot.com
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
Photos: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: Decraguard |
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Bill-
Thanks for the reply and clarification!
If you want to really "modernize" the boat and cover up all the wood grain, it should be easy, at least theoreticaly.
C-Dory used to advertise that one of the virtues of the boat was that the interior could be removed and reassembled if necessary,
If this is true (I've never done it), one could pull all the screws, brackets and panels out, then paint the panels spray booth style. (I don't know if it's possible to interswitch any of the panels, but if you do find any that are matches, find a way to hide a mark to differentiate them that will show after painting.)
I'm not sure whether I'd use an epoxy or polyurethane paint for sure, the final choice being dependent on which one or whatever else would stick to the plastic surface the best after being roughed up with some sandpaper for "tooth". All else being equal, the polyurethane paints flow out better, get a higher gloss, and are much more flexible and resistant to chipping than epoxies. This may be of great signifigance when applying them over soft or flexible surfaces. Consult several professional customer service representatives from paint companies for advice on the paint selection. Perhaps someone here has some experience with this, too!
You could spray the panels in a spray booth / studio like room, minimizing the dust problem and affording the ease of spraying horizontal panels, multiple coats, and long drying times. Be sure the panels are throughly dry and hardened before turning them over to do the other side.
When you begin to reassemble the panels, add some sort of a colorless and removeable adhesive or bedding compound to the screw holes for a tight fit, since the boat is older and now the screws have been taken out and re-inserted, which loosesns the fit up a bit.
Be sure to let us know how you're progressing here on the thread and take lots of photos to share with us through your album!
Good Luck!
Joe.
wthattny wrote: | Joe, the boat "Little Toot" for sale in Utah has been garaged for all its 20 years, so the exterior including the cabin door is in great shape. What I noticed, and what disappointed me, was the interior.
The wood grain pattern on the formica skin of the marine plywood is of course very thin. On the floor under the table, on the countertops and table itself, the pattern was here and there rubbed off due to scuffing or scratching. In addition to the appearance of wear, seemed to me the whole interior had a '70's look of cheap paneling.
Now, keep in mind this was my first impression of a C-Dory after months of study but never before seeing one in person. So, my expectations were high, and they may have been colored also by the barnyard smell of the interior - no doubt due to the boat being stored in . . . the owner's barn.
Seems to me that if someone could suggest a way of permanently covering the wood grain, like paint or epoxy, that would go a long way to improving the appearance of these vintage boats - which are of course great boats with all the important features of the modern C-Dory.
- Bill - |
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wthattny
Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 26 City/Region: Conifer
State or Province: CO
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know that I'm up for a major remodel of "Little Toot". That's why I kinda jumped on the idea of the "Hunky Dory" that Cap'n D just traded in for his C-Ranger tug down at Wefings Marina. So, my wife and I are going down to Eastpoint, Fla next Sunday (4/29) for a look see.
The previous owner probably used it more than anyone excepting maybe Bill and El Fiero in the "Halcyon", so it may be beat up. At least it has everything and the kitchen sink! Little Toot, in contrast, has no upgrades, not even a windlass, and I just don't think I have the time that it would need to bring it up to modern standards.
Might be easy to add electronics, but I was really concerned about the risk that nothing would stick to the current formica-like surface and that I'd have to re-carpenter the entire innards. Engines I can do, but a lot of carpentry is beyond my understanding for some reason, and I assume that there are few if any marine craftsmen here in the mile high city.
So, long story short, we are going to look at a boat way beyond our needs, with radar and who knows what, and I'm avoiding for now the possibly more prudent choice of fixing up and dressing up the '87 model.
However, it may come to that, and I appreciate your great ideas!
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wthattny
Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 26 City/Region: Conifer
State or Province: CO
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Pat,
I really appreciate your congrats! We haven't committed yet, but I did risk a sizable deposit. I'm counting on Marc at Wefings to treat us right in that regard.
Like you and many others, I've read a lot of Darrel's (Cap'n D) posts, especially about that crazy rack and his pin seat way up there. The weight of the vessel worries me, but man that guy's taken the boat everywhere but the Moon!
So, I figure it works, but we will have a lot to learn about its unique characteristics. What I can't figure is why he never added AC, spending so much time in Mexico and Florida. I'm gonna ask him as soon as I can get ahold of him -- he never seems to sit still long enough.
Maybe when I'm down at Wefings I will be able to log in. If not, I'll let you know what I found when I'm back.
Thanks again! This thing of buying a boat again after 29 years is scary.
- Bill - |
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carl
Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 14 City/Region: Bloomington
State or Province: IL
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Seems like the weight of that stuff on the roof would have a negative effect on the center of gravity making for a less stable boat. I'd seriously consider removing that rack if I bought this boat. |
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wthattny
Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 26 City/Region: Conifer
State or Province: CO
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Yup, Carl, that's what I'm hearing from others also. Ironically, being inexperienced in this, the rack is what really attracted me to this particular boat. So useful! But, now I've got serious doubts. Well, I'm already booked to go see it on Monday, so I'll just have to see if I can determine the risk in a sea trial. Another down factor - the motors have 700 and 900 hours. I'm thinking I should be looking at a different boat, especially since I don't plan any trips out of the sight of land. Thanks for your input. |
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