What Kind of Adhesive for Shelving, Etc.??

cbadmin · Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 206

From: Pat_Anderson (Original Message) Sent: 2/19/2003 9:21 PM
OK, Patty came home with some storage stuff that will be great in the cabin, need to glue to interior fiberglass. What kind of adhesive or glue works best, say, plastic or wood to fiberglass?

From: DavidAonAnnaLeigh Sent: 2/19/2003 9:56 PM
Pat, the factory glues in the teak trim that is above the Wallas and sink. Have a picture of the piece being held against the bulkhead with clamps. I'll ask them tomorrow what kind of glue they use. Probably Gorilla Glue. The important part of glueing is to be able to put pressure on the piece long enough for it to set and adhere.

DavidA

Helen O · Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 11:49 pm Post subject:

3M makes a marine adhesive #5200 that is made to perform in damp or wet conditions. I've used it on my boat to glue the shelves to the wall. It's strong. Problem is that it takes about a week for it to completely cure. There are faster curing glues on the market, but they don't advertise their use in water. I've used J&R Bond, it comes in 2 tubes and you mix them together. You have to get it mixed and applied in less than 4 minutes because it sets up in a hurry.
So here's my idea. Idea

Apply the slow curing 5200 adhesive to the piece that you're going to glue. BUT, leave spaces that you can apply a faster curing glue. After you get the 5200 applied, mix up some of the 2 tube faster glue and apply it in the blank spaces.
I haven't tried this yet, but would like to know reasons why it won't work. I'm thinking that you'll need to press the shelf long enough for the fast glue to bond, then it will hold long enough for the 5200 to cure. Thoughts?

Lynn Marie · Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:25 am Post subject:

3M makes two types of 5200. For use on shelf and trim I've used the "Fast Cure" 5200. You still have to hold the item in place till cured but it's only a matter of hours and not days. My system is to get all the stuff ready that I want to fasten to the boat then wait till last thing in the day. Then goop the stuff up and secure it in place. After that I close the door and go mix a martini, sit in my easy chair, and think of new stuff to clue on the next day. In the morning I pull off the clamps and continue with my project. Always works for me.

Tim, with wood all over the Lynn Marie.

Helen O · Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:48 pm Post subject:

Tim

I've been looking for the fast cure 5200 and can't seem to find here in Longview. Tried Home Depot. Are you sure it is also called 5200 or does it have another number?

C-Hawk · Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 10:39 pm Post subject:

I used the 5200 to glue these on for my galley storage

Helen O · Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 11:46 pm Post subject:

Nice job on your storage gizmo's, Roger. You've given me some ideas.

Lynn Marie · Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:08 am Post subject:

Larry,
Yep on the 5200 Fast Cure. It's a green label.not red. They also make a 4200 but all are 3M products. West Marine has them in their catalog and Englund Marine in Astoria also carries the stuff.

Tim

Helen O · Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:26 am Post subject:

Thanks Tim, I didn't know about the red and green label.

das flug · Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:56 pm Post subject:

I've seen both types of 5200 sealant at Wal Mart, but only in the small tubes.

Helen O · Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 3:09 pm Post subject:

I'll check out Wal-Mart, Das. I learn all sorts of neat things on this website. Mr. Green

By the way, welcome to the board, Das Flug!

TyBoo · Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 3:18 pm Post subject:

The small tubes of the 3M sealant is all I get anymore. No matter how careful you are, about the third or fourth time you try to use the stuff, the end is plugged. Last use gets the side cut open and then thrown away.

I don't think it is a problem with the small squeeze tubes, but with the full size caulk gun tubes it says on the label to use the contents within 48 hours. I don't buy them no more, even though it is cheaper per ounce.

Also, can someone tell me why a person would opt for the standard 3M 5200 or 4200 over the fast cure? The fast stuff is cured in 24 hours, and the regular takes a week. What is the advantage of the slow stuff.

Walbergs has got to be cheaper than WM, wouldn't you think?

C-Hawk · Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 4:47 pm Post subject:

I dunno Mike- I think maybe Freddies may be cheaper? Course we don't have Freddie M's down here, so what do I know- eh. Rolling Eyes