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Best Day
Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 145 City/Region: Long Beach
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Best Day
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject: Sound insulation for v-berth |
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Hi all,
I know this has been discussed before but I couldn't really find an answer. I'm looking for something that can be spay or painted on to the v-berth walls and bottom to make it quieter. Hopefully something that isn't too heavy. I found this product
http://www.mainstreet-audio.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=VB1X-1G&Category_Code=CASCADE
but it is black. Anyone know of something like this that is whit or cream colored? Has anyone else tried something that they like?
Thanks,
Bill |
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drjohn71a
Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 1820 City/Region: Wichita
State or Province: KS
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Tom-a-Hawk
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Bill, 'Sounds like that mat'l. is specifically designed for acoustic enclosures, so I wonder if it works on fiberglass.
As for me, I am planning on trying placing soft materials in the areas. That micro-foam sponge mattress padding worked on my motorhome bed which is directly over the rear diesel engine. I think sleeping bags, padding, etc., should reduce the sound bouncing around, but others disagree.
John |
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TyBoo
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 5328 City/Region: Warrenton
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 1996
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Mornin' Bill -
You might look over this thread. I have seen the stuff that B~C used in his boat and it looks very good. He won't ever let me ride on his boat, and only lets me in the cockpit when aboard, so I don't know how it works other than him saying he is pleased with the insulation qualities. I think several others have tried his stuff, also.
Good luck -
Mike _________________ TyBoo Mike
Sold: 1996 25' Cruise Ship
Sold: 1987 22' Cruiser |
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Alasgun Guest
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: Sound insulation for V berth |
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Go to the butt mall (Internet) with Mascoat.com and your search will be over. They have a water based, ceramic insulation that is sprayed on and appears very affordable. In a conversation I had with them, I was told they work with C-Dory and that some boats are having this applied at the factory, as an option I'm sure. Mike on Huda Thunkit |
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Best Day
Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 145 City/Region: Long Beach
State or Province: CA
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C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Best Day
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your responses guys. I looked over that thread before but only payed attention to the insulation part of it. I missed the sound insulation part. I'm going to call the manufacturer and get some info.
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Bill |
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flapbreaker
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 878 City/Region: Hillsboro
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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This product works pretty well. You might even be able to find it in white or cream color. Cheap too.
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B~C
Joined: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 2872 City/Region: Bend
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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hey yo, Mascoat makes both an insulation and a sound deadening goo. The sound deadening goo is black. I did not insulate or sound proof my v-berth as I had just carpeted it the year before. I did lay down a coat of the sound proofing under the galley and rear dinette seat on the rear cabin bulkhead. I also slathered a bunch on the transom, behind the fuel tank. Engine noise reduction was what I was after and I can't afford to repower with Suzuki's.
The sound proofing I used in the cabin was overcoated with the white insulation goo followed by a coat of interior house paint. I's been in place for a few years now, no complaints. The insulation/ house paint treatment was given to most of the cabin and the appearance is such that most people would never notice that I did anything.
Hell Mike, I didn't know you wanted a ride in my old tub, damn, no big screen TV, hot tub or sauna or any other cruise ship luxuries like you're used to  _________________ Ken
1999 22' boaterhome |
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oldgrowth
Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 2196 City/Region: Rochester
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Sound insulation for v-berth |
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Best Day wrote: | Has anyone else tried something that they like? |
Another brand on the market is QuiteCar. I purchased a gallon and tried it, not on the inside of my boat but inside the engine cover on my outboard. It is a thick paste, dries a dark grey and is heavy (I am guessing 15 lbs per gallon).
I took sound readings with a db meter at 1’, 3’, 6’ & 9’ feet from the engine before and after applying the paint. I did it at idle speed, in & out of gear and at 1500 rpm & 2500 rpm. I did the test with the boat on the trailer so I would not get any water or wind noise. Using a sound meter there was a measurable difference in the noise level but I could not tell the difference by ear. With extended cruising at speed, I think I notice a little less ringing in my ears after stopping, but conservation with someone on board is not any better.
One thing I noticed was at the captain’s chair, I got a higher reading on the meter with it facing the v-berth than with it facing the engine. Now, I did not take a reading facing the v-berth before applying QuiteCar so no comparing there.
Would I do it again? Maybe!
Was it worth it? Not sure! _________________ Dave 
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21357 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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I have used light wieght foam pads--like back packing pads for both sound and heat insullation. They don't weight much, can be glued in place and then covered with an additional layer of vinly or pvc headliner material. That is what we will be using on the Tom Cat.
We find that all of the fiberglass boats which are bare hulls in side--get cold and condense in the winter, got hot, making sleeping difficult in the summer--the foam pads resolve the probelm--not expensive and easy to do. There is also a material we found in Alaska called "fish blanket" I think it is a PVC foam 5/8" thick. It is used between layers of fish and ice--don't even think of buying it used!--it is available in many marine hardware supply houses in 4 x8 foot sheets.
If you really want to knock down the sound--get the convuluted foam. I sold my house to a radio commercial voice over actor--and he converted part of the ham radio shack to a studio--it was absolutely "dead" inside and zero sound from the outside got in--he even had a suspended floor and ceilings....far more than is needed in a C Dory--but the materials were not too expensive--look under Sound booth supply. _________________ Bob Austin
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flapbreaker
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 878 City/Region: Hillsboro
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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flapbreaker wrote: | This product works pretty well. You might even be able to find it in white or cream color. Cheap too.
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Ok, you guy's are a bunch of old farts with no sense of humor. Not even one I guess I better go work on my comedy routine some.  |
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JamesTXSD
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 7481 City/Region: from island boy to desert dweller
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject: I resent that remark |
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flapbreaker wrote: | Ok, you guy's are a bunch of old farts with no sense of humor. Not even one I guess I better go work on my comedy routine some.  |
Most of us are old farts WITH a sense of humor!
The Corsair trimarans use a material called Frontrunner (often referred to as "mouse fur") that conforms to the curves, helps with condensation, and provides a bit of insulation. Kinda like a cross between cloth and carpet.
Best wishes,
Jim B. _________________ Jim & Joan
CD-25 "Wild Blue" (sold August 2014)
http://captnjim.blogspot.com/
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Jeff and Julie
Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 287 City/Region: Juneau, AK
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Flapbreaker,
I could not stop laughing!!!
Julie |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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Here's an OLD FART who could use some sound insulation!
 _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
 
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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flapbreaker
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 878 City/Region: Hillsboro
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Jeff and Julie wrote: | Flapbreaker,
I could not stop laughing!!!
Julie |
I feel better now. Thanks for your support.
Oh, ya and sorry to high jack this thread. Now back to the regularly scheduled topic.  |
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Sea Wolf
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:28 am Post subject: |
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flapbreaker-
Just one more interruption......What about your handle?
A combination of flatulence and breaking wind?
Joe. |
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