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Levity
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 204 City/Region: Shippensburg
State or Province: PA
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C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Levity
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:37 am Post subject: Enzymatic fuel tank cleaner |
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Hi Folks,
Has anyone tried an enzymatic fuel tank cleaner like Star*Tron tank cleaner? A full description can be found at www.starbrite.com.
This seems too good to be true. Perhaps the chemists amongst us will offer their learned opinions concerning this type of product.
Thanks,
Mike 'Levity' |
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AstoriaDave
Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 994 City/Region: Astoria
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:25 am Post subject: Re: Enzymatic fuel tank cleaner |
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Levity wrote: | Hi Folks,
Has anyone tried an enzymatic fuel tank cleaner like Star*Tron tank cleaner? A full description can be found at www.starbrite.com.
This seems too good to be true. | Mike, I saw your earlier request and refrained from responding, expecting to defer to someone who had tried the stuff -- but nobody has responded yet. Like you, I am skeptical, also. Enzymatic rearrangement of fuel molecules is not impossible, but it just does not ring true.
Although I am an organic chemist, that doesn't count for much because I do not have any experience with this material. I sure as heck would defer to someone with direct experience. _________________ Dave Kruger
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20861 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
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C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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This is Soltron, rebranded. Soltron has been around for a few years. The only positive aspect I can personally vouche for is a friend had about 30 gallons of diesel in an integral tank which he had forgotten about for about 30 years. It was gelled and could not be pumped out. 16 oz of Soltron was added in Spain, and the boat sailed across the Atlantic, and up to Florida. When the boat got to Florida, the fuel was liquid and could be pumped out. It appears to help clean tanks, specifically where there has been "crud" in the bottom of the tank. I would recommend putting Soltron or rebranded material into a tank before fuel polishing. I tried it in both gas and diesel engine powered boats and did not notice any real difference in power, fuel economy or smoking. I am not currently using the product. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
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wailedcentipede
Joined: 13 Dec 2003 Posts: 199 City/Region: canada
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:08 am Post subject: |
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years past one of my experiences was being talked into a tank cleaner additive in my car with a fill up ... well forty miles down the road i ended up on the side of the road with a carberater that had the float valve filled with guck plugged and than some (required a tow).... just thinking if you start adding cleaner additives to the tank make sure you have a up to-date filter system in the line ... wc |
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cpt vic
Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 55 City/Region: northeast river/chesapeake
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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we had just bought stabil at west and the salesman suggested the startron with recommendations from a friend, we decided to ask our cdory dealer, they had bottles sitting on there counter, recommended it over stabil..which they told us to use when we bought our dory so... we purchased startron and will try it on our next fill, i hope it's a good thing you don't need near as much per tank as stabil. _________________ Bon Voyage,
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20861 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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My personal advice is not to substitute Soltron (or its rebadged products) for a biocide or fuel stabalizer. I am not sure what motivates dealers to recommend products. But there are both biocides and stabalizers which are well proven. I think that Soltron has a place in cleaning tanks, and perhaps in preventing some fouling--but I would not place all of my faith on it for full fuel stabalization. |
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oldgrowth
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:46 am Post subject: |
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I question the need of a fuel stabilizer, if the fuel sits unused for less than six to eight months. I often times have gas sitting around that is a year old and have never had a problem with it. I have a skidder with a 352 Cummings V6 that has had the same diesel fuel in it for over three years and it will still start easily and runs without any problems. My emergency house generator has close to two year old gas and runs without a hic-cup. The only thing I will not use old fuel (more than 8 months old) in, are my chain saws. I have never used any kind of fuel additive in any of my equipment: However I always use quality fuel, never the cheap stuff.
Until I start having a problem, I will not use any. _________________ Dave
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drjohn71a
Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 1820 City/Region: Wichita
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:12 am Post subject: |
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The latest Passage Maker magazine issue has an extensive article on fuel tank cleaning and steps to prevent fouling. The Star product was one of the products mentioned as working well for it's purpose. They advise complete tank cleaning at 15 year intervals. An interesting side note was the effect of adding the water scavanging alcohol products such at Heet - apparently, the water combines with the alcohol forming a gel layer on the bottom of the tank which can be burned if small amounts hit the fuel system at a time, but can foul the fuel system if a solid run of the gel hits the fuel intake all at the same time with no regular fuel to burn with it.
John _________________ Sold 2007 TomCat TC255, Tom-a-Hawk
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drjohn71a
Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 1820 City/Region: Wichita
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:13 am Post subject: |
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Also, for Oldgrowth, the problem with unstabilized fuel is shellac deposits forming on the fuel delivery components. John |
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