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Tom Hruby



Joined: 11 Nov 2023
Posts: 120
City/Region: Lacey
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2024
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: WATT NOW
Photos: WATT NOW
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob, I quite agree the enclosed cockpit is great when cruising in a deep keel large boat. Unfortunately the 22' C-Dory is light and has a flat bottom. That means that it has very little lateral resistance to cross winds. I have found that I have to roll up the top and fold it around the bimini bows when cruising, even in winds as low as 8-10 mph, and forget about leaving the side panels on! We extend the top and put on the side panels when we get to a marina or anchorage. In that case the "privacy" panels we have work just as well at keeping the rain out. They are easier to roll up and store than the clear vinyl sides. That is why we keep them at home for the summer.
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thataway



Joined: 02 Nov 2003
Posts: 21354
City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom Hruby wrote:
Bob, I quite agree the enclosed cockpit is great when cruising in a deep keel large boat. Unfortunately the 22' C-Dory is light and has a flat bottom. That means that it has very little lateral resistance to cross winds. I have found that I have to roll up the top and fold it around the bimini bows when cruising, even in winds as low as 8-10 mph, and forget about leaving the side panels on! We extend the top and put on the side panels when we get to a marina or anchorage. In that case the "privacy" panels we have work just as well at keeping the rain out. They are easier to roll up and store than the clear vinyl sides. That is why we keep them at home for the summer.


I suspect that your handling problems are because of the electric propulsion system--I have run many hundreds (thousands) of miles with the full camper up, and no issues. I believe you go marina to marina in order to recharge your batteries--where we often avoid marinas, and anchor out. Also you are not able to take advantage of the speed of the C Dory when on a plane; that allows you to go thru passes in the PNW where with the displacement speed you power at, does not allow you to more than one pass a day--and you have to wait for slack water or a slow favorable current. Also being dependent on recharging, limits the places you can cruise to in one of the most wonderful cruising grounds in the entire World.


We have done a month long trip to AK with a 25, full camper canvas up the entire time. Same with month long several trips up to desolation sound and to the Broughtons. We have done several other trips in the PNW with both 22's and 25's--again no issues with the full camper canvas up. The camper back allowed us to cruise year around in many areas, including in the SE part of the USA.

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Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
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Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
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ssobol



Joined: 27 Oct 2012
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City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom Hruby wrote:
Bob, I quite agree the enclosed cockpit is great when cruising in a deep keel large boat. Unfortunately the 22' C-Dory is light and has a flat bottom. That means that it has very little lateral resistance to cross winds. I have found that I have to roll up the top and fold it around the bimini bows when cruising, even in winds as low as 8-10 mph, and forget about leaving the side panels on! We extend the top and put on the side panels when we get to a marina or anchorage. In that case the "privacy" panels we have work just as well at keeping the rain out. They are easier to roll up and store than the clear vinyl sides. That is why we keep them at home for the summer.


I was thinking about this. Yes the CD22 is sensitive to crosswinds especially at low speeds in confined spaces. Having a camper back up will give more windage to blow the boat sideways. However, my CD22 wants to swing the cabin down wind as soon as the steerageway comes off if there is a crosswind. If I miss with the forward line, the boat can get crossways in the slip pretty quickly. Having the camperback up might just tend to blow the boat sideways rather than having it turn downwind. In some situations this might work out better.
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Tom Hruby



Joined: 11 Nov 2023
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City/Region: Lacey
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C-Dory Year: 2024
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: WATT NOW
Photos: WATT NOW
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob, you are correct. I have to cruise like a sailboat; watching wind and tide. BUT, I have been doing this for 27 years now in Puget Sound (all electric). This is a different kind of cruising than high speed planing, and I find there is increased interest in this kind of cruising. I do have solar panels on the cabin top that give me about 1hr of cruising for 5 hrs of sunlight. The 22' C-Dory is well suited for this low speed electric cruising if I work with its limitations. I have estimated that the absolute energy consumed per mile traveled (kWh) at 5mph is 10 times lower for electric (0.400 kWhr/mile vs. about 4.0 kWhr/mile) then for gasoline - also at 5mph (using the estimate of 33,000 kWhr stored in a gallon of gas).
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JamesTXSD



Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Posts: 7481
City/Region: from island boy to desert dweller
State or Province: AZ
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: "Wild Blue" (sold 9/14)
Photos: Wild Blue
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Dr Bob on this - the camperback we had on Wild Blue greatly expanded our comfort. Ours was made by King canvas and had the eisenglass plastic panels on a section of the sides and back. Those panels would roll up with a screen underneath that allowed good air flow, even on hot days. In fact, we'd put a navy blue beach towel to cover the sunny side eisenglass, and that helped keep it cool, too. When in a marina, we'd sometimes put the towels up for the privacy.

Most of the time, we would have a Honda 2000 generator in a RubberMade bin, a large cooler with a pad on top that we used for extra seating (and storage inside, mostly for dry food and paper goods), and a couple comfortable chairs in the cockpit. Never had an issue with any of that stuff "walking away" - I credit the camperback/privacy thing for that.

That camperback provided more square footage for living when we were out cruising. Being on the boat for up to 6 months at a time was easier thanks to having that extra covered space in the cockpit.


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Tom Hruby



Joined: 11 Nov 2023
Posts: 120
City/Region: Lacey
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2024
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: WATT NOW
Photos: WATT NOW
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops the energy stored in a gallon of gas is 33kWh . I put a comma in instead of a period. The other numbers are ok
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