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Donald Tyson
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:17 pm Post subject: Canvas |
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We are looking to have someone make us a Camper tent for our little 22. Does anyone know of a shop in the northeast within 4-5hrs of Easton PA (Philly/NY area)?
A few questions:
Since we have no framework to guide us we are also not locked in to any specific design:
1) is there any advantage worth paying for to make the tent cover the entire boat to include the splash well? Is this simply not worth it?
2) Since I do fish lightly is there any value to making the tent cantilevered?[imghttp://www.c-brats.com/albums/Thistle/IMG_1838.sized.jpg[/img] |
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Donald Tyson
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know what these are there ate two on both port and starboard. Were they for a Bimini? |
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ricka
Joined: 05 May 2019 Posts: 61 City/Region: Yreka
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:55 pm Post subject: gunnel brackets |
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Donald those might have been used to hang bumpers _________________ previuos vessels
1976 ORION TRIHULL 15
1984 BOSTON WHALER 17 MONTAUK
1996 BOSTON WHALER 21 CONQUEST
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C-Wolfe
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Donald Tyson wrote: |
Does anyone know what these are there ate two on both port and starboard. Were they for a Bimini? |
It’s funny that they are so close to each other but Ricka is right, it’s to hang your fender. Might have been to cleat both end of the fender so they are parallel to the water, as opposed to just hanging down. _________________ Stephan
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sparkle; Ericson 25 CB 2008-2012
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Schuster
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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I've read on several of your posts that you like too fish a lot. I do too and that is why i took off the back bimini cover over the cockpit as it interfers with my fishing. We do carry a Tommy Bahama unbrella with us for shade. It is handy and can be moved to the best shade advantage. _________________ Dave
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Donald Tyson
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe for Fender Board Use?
Just got a quote for $6250.
Stainless frame included.
$2900 Base Camper tent
$950 Rear opening panel,
$950 Port and
$950 Starboard panel.
$500 Zip in/out Potty/shower room.
$6250
He doesn't recommend the old vinyl isinglass as he says it only lasts a few years. Is that because he normally only does salt water boats along the coast? I thought Isinglass lasted a bit longer. If I insist on the old rolled Isinglass he can knock $500 off.
Thoughts
Moving on for more prices |
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rogerbum
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Those two attachments are for a boarding ladder that slips into them. You have a set on either side in case you need to retrieve from either side. A boarding ladder like this one
https://www.boatoutfitters.com/stainless-steel-gunwale-mounted-removable-ladder
And if you fish, there is an advantage to being able to fold the camper cover back to get it out of the way while fishing. Passing a rod with a good size fish around the supports for the canvas is no fun and if you use longer rods, the canvas can prevent you from backing up with a fish on and the rod up (as is often necessary to net the fish). _________________ Roger on Meant to be |
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C-Wolfe
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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I have 2 extra attachment for the frame on the gunnel near the cabin bulkhead. I can remove my canvas, fold the frame and move it there so it doesn’t interfere with anything, like while fishing
You can see it there strapped against the cabin.
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Donald Tyson
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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That is nice! |
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Donald Tyson
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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I mostly fish for Panfish and the Bimini will be needed for a living room, lol. I like the cantilevered frame that some folks have. Schuster wrote: | I've read on several of your posts that you like too fish a lot. I do too and that is why i took off the back bimini cover over the cockpit as it interfers with my fishing. We do carry a Tommy Bahama unbrella with us for shade. It is handy and can be moved to the best shade advantage. |
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Donald Tyson
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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These receivers turned out to be to match the boarding ladder, thanks
rogerbum wrote: | Those two attachments are for a boarding ladder that slips into them. You have a set on either side in case you need to retrieve from either side. A boarding ladder like this one
https://www.boatoutfitters.com/stainless-steel-gunwale-mounted-removable-ladder
And if you fish, there is an advantage to being able to fold the camper cover back to get it out of the way while fishing. Passing a rod with a good size fish around the supports for the canvas is no fun and if you use longer rods, the canvas can prevent you from backing up with a fish on and the rod up (as is often necessary to net the fish). |
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thataway
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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The price quoted you is a fair price. Go with the clear vinyl the canvas guy recommends. He is correct. A full boat cover is entirely different than the camper back. If you want a full boat cover, Angola Canvas has the patterns for the 22 and 25, and make a good cover at a fair price. I had purchased several.
The cantilevered frame is expensive--figure about 10 K for it plus or minus, vs the $6500 you were quoted. I like the cantilevered frame, but you cannot remove it to cash overhead if that is important to you. The SS frame, you can have a second mounting position, or on slides in the inside of the gunnal. Don't go for cheap stuff--it just does not last as long. _________________ Bob Austin
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shad
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Tom Hruby
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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I purchased the full camper top for my 22 cruiser last year from King Marine Canvas here in Seattle. It included the vinyl panels, mesh side screens and privacy solid panels, all for $3800 + tax. Be aware that these camper tops with side panels require that snaps be screwed to the outside of the boat for a proper fit, so you will need to find someone to install them on your boat, and match them to the snaps on the panels.
Also, I don't think that Isinglass is the proper term to use:
From the Sailrite web page: Today’s Boat Window Material
As previously stated, isinglass was never a brand of window material. It was a mineral product commonly used in everything from carriages and street lamps to early automobile windows and boat curtains. Thin, transparent sheets of isinglass (aka mica) were used in boilers, lanterns and stoves — then later as lampshades with the discovery of electricity — because mica is heat resistant and less likely to shatter than glass. Its use soared during the 1800s and 1900s but has since been replaced by more durable and higher quality synthetic vinyl materials.
Today, brands like Strataglass™, Regalite®, Crystal Clear and O’Sea® are the new favorites in the vinyl window industry. Unlike isinglass, these brands are press-polished, which is a manufacturing method of taking two layers of material and pressing them together between highly polished chrome plates. This process produces one thicker polished sheet of the most optically and consistently clear window vinyl. Outdated isinglass material was at risk of yellowing, hazing, peeling and turning brittle over time. The brands of window material we carry at Sailrite are the best in the industry and will hold up to years of use while retaining exceptional optical clarity and durability. |
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Donald Tyson
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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I see a consensus to use better materials and to not skimp on quality. I may skip a top for this year as there are some other issues I need to address soon. |
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