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C-Wolfe
Joined: 16 Sep 2020 Posts: 340 City/Region: Anchorage
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C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Valhalla
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:15 pm Post subject: Diesel heater exhaust |
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I値l be installing a forced air diesel heater inside the galley cabinet and debating about where to install the exhaust port. I have a Wallas stove with the exhaust port right below it, just above the waterline, very similar to my previous 22 cruiser. I had in a few rare occasions, in both the current and previous boat, got some back drafting of the exhaust inside the cabin. It happened while underway with some good wave actions, water will be temporarily blocking the exhaust port forcing it to leak where it can, inside the cabin. It doesn't last long but it does get quite stinky inside, I normally just shut it down when this happens.
In an effort to avoid this, I壇 like to install it much higher, the best location I can come up with is high between the side windows, that will have the pipe running in the forward corner of the head compartment. I知 also hoping that will radiate a bit of heat inside the head as a bonus. I知 planing to increase the size of the pipe a bit to reduce flow restriction of a smaller pipe. A good portion of it will be going straight up, I知 not sure if the stack effect will be helping it enough to be noticeable. I will also be adding heat shield to any nearby material.
I don稚 really see where that approach will create any issues, but if if I知 missing something, please let me know. _________________ Stephan
ValHalla 08 TC255 2024-present
C-Wolfe 22 C-Dory cruiser 2020-24
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Peter & Judy
Joined: 03 Dec 2014 Posts: 570 City/Region: Olds
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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I have the same setup and only rarely have I had problems. I installed my exhaust, which was a Wallas exhaust pipe about a foot away just above the waterline. The only problem that I have had is with water getting into the exhaust ports in heavy seas. So I made up a couple of corks that can close off the pipes. _________________ Peter & Judy Haase
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C-Wolfe
Joined: 16 Sep 2020 Posts: 340 City/Region: Anchorage
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Peter & Judy, thanks for your comment. Like you, it is a very rare occurrence but it does happens. right now I feel like I have an opportunity to improve on it with the added bonus of getting a bit of heat inside the head compartment.
I知 running it through this site first to make sure I知 not missing something that will make me regret doing it this way. |
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colbysmith
Joined: 02 Oct 2011 Posts: 4949 City/Region: Madison
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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At least on Webasto's, it calls for the exhaust to be below the heater. I think this is to keep water out of the burner box. |
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C-Wolfe
Joined: 16 Sep 2020 Posts: 340 City/Region: Anchorage
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Colby, I値l try to minimize the chance of getting water inside the burner as much as I can. |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1808 City/Region: Wasilla
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Many larger boats are going to have an install with the exhaust higher than the furnace. It is because of the water as noted and there are work arounds....not really that big of a deal. |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3580 City/Region: SW Michigan
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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T.R. Bauer wrote: | Many larger boats are going to have an install with the exhaust higher than the furnace. It is because of the water as noted and there are work arounds....not really that big of a deal. |
Be careful with the run, some of those diesel heaters do not tolerate a long exhaust pipe very well. |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1808 City/Region: Wasilla
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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ssobol wrote: | T.R. Bauer wrote: | Many larger boats are going to have an install with the exhaust higher than the furnace. It is because of the water as noted and there are work arounds....not really that big of a deal. |
Be careful with the run, some of those diesel heaters do not tolerate a long exhaust pipe very well. |
You are correct and I am well aware of that limitation. It generally says in the installation manual on the max length of the exhaust run. However, I do not think he's going to run into the max on his installation...but that's just a guess. |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21467 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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My experience in some larger boats, is that they have a forced draft (exhaust pressure increase) to avoid water in the system of the burner, and to resolve issues with the different heights of the furnace fire box and exhaust port.
It may vary from brand to brand.
I have always lagged the exhaust pipe of my heaterx/Wallis Stove, to prevent burns or incendiary accidents. The old lagging used to be Asbestos, now it is fiberglass. Some will even put a plaster finish on the lagging--I have just left mine as knitted fiberglass wrap. _________________ Bob Austin
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tsturm
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 1170 City/Region: Soldotna
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:38 am Post subject: Re: Diesel heater exhaust |
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C-Wolfe wrote: | I値l be installing a forced air diesel heater inside the galley cabinet and debating about where to install the exhaust port. I have a Wallas stove with the exhaust port right below it, just above the waterline, very similar to my previous 22 cruiser. I had in a few rare occasions, in both the current and previous boat, got some back drafting of the exhaust inside the cabin. It happened while underway with some good wave actions, water will be temporarily blocking the exhaust port forcing it to leak where it can, inside the cabin. It doesn't last long but it does get quite stinky inside, I normally just shut it down when this happens.
In an effort to avoid this, I壇 like to install it much higher, the best location I can come up with is high between the side windows, that will have the pipe running in the forward corner of the head compartment. I知 also hoping that will radiate a bit of heat inside the head as a bonus. I知 planing to increase the size of the pipe a bit to reduce flow restriction of a smaller pipe. A good portion of it will be going straight up, I知 not sure if the stack effect will be helping it enough to be noticeable. I will also be adding heat shield to any nearby material.
I don稚 really see where that approach will create any issues, but if if I知 missing something, please let me know. |
I put a Planar 44D-12 under the helm seat(ice box)ran exh. through the
cabinet wall and exits the hull in line with the sink drain approx.
8" below the rub rail. I also wrap any exposed exh. pipe with fiberglass headder wrap & stainless monel wire. some picts in the TMR-TOO folder of a hews craft I did.
Also watch out where your fenders normally hang for your exh. exit  |
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