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rickw



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:26 pm    Post subject: Is 19’ Angler big enough to sleep aboard for 2 Reply with quote

22’ is too big and heavy for our truck. So is a 19’ angler an option for crabbing and sleeping aboard? And...is a 5hp big enough for a kicker? Is it workable to use as angler/cruiser?
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rickw



Joined: 07 Jan 2011
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City/Region: Coupeville, WA (Whidbey Island)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:49 pm    Post subject: Sleeping aboard a 19’ C-Dory Angler question.....continued Reply with quote

More info....just want to know if there is room on a 19’ Angler model for two people to sleep up front? We have slept aboard a 16’ cruiser...but know that Angler cabins are designed relatively small...more for storage. Also, is my 5 hp Honda kicker big enough to troll...and especially get it back tp Port in case of breakdown? I would consider a 22’, but it is too heavy for my newer Colorado pickup and I’m not buying a new truck just to tow my boat a couple times per year.
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ssobol



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you could rent a truck for the few times you tow your boat. Enterprise or Uhaul.
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JamesTXSD



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your Colorado is the 4 cyl 2.5L, it is rated to tow up to 3,500 pounds. If it is the V6 3.6L, with the towing package, it is rated to tow up to 7,000 pounds.

The 19 and the 22 model C-Dorys have the same space in the V-berth - plenty of couples cruise in the 22. Ruth and Joe (R-Matey) spent a lot of time on their 19, which was later owned by Greg (Aurelia, boat name Ari, family of 3) who also spent time onboard. That particular 19 did have a solid bulkhead that Joe added. Most of the factory 19s are open to the cabin, with a canvas covering.

I am no expert on the 19, but there are folks on here who may add to the conversation who have a lot of experience with that model. My take on it: not that much difference in weight between the 19 and the 22 (figure 4,200 pounds +/- vs 5,000 pounds +/-). I've read that the shorter hull of the 19 does handle different from the 22.

As far as your 5hp kicker - we used a motor smaller than that on a 25 as our dinghy motor and a potential use for the 25 - it will work on the 19 or 22. We had an adjustable bracket for the 2.5hp motor on the 25: it would move it at about 4 mph in still water.

Hope that helps - you'll hear from others with more experience with the 19 and 22.

Jim
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Flashyfish



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 2004 19 Angler and the front sleeping berth can handle two people depending on the size of the occupants.
6' 6" wide- tapering down to about 2' wide
6' 3" long

The 5hp kicker motor (properly mounted at the right height) can push the boat along in calm seas. The single cylinder 5hp engine produces considerable vibration compared to a twin cylinder 8 HP or 9.9.

My boat hull with a 90HP Honda, Yamaha 9.9 kicker and 35 gallons of fuel and 2 AGM batteries, weighs in at around 3000 pounds. The axle weight of the boat on a two axle aluminum trailer is 3480 pounds.
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thataway



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with sleeping size. Weight is going to be quite variable, but probably 1000 lbs less than the 22.

I have used small kickers (or primary motors) all of my life. I grew up on a 26' wooden sailboat, probably #6500, including keel ballast. We used an older 5hp as the primary engine, and took that boat to Catalina about 1000 times, some motoring the 25 miles all of the way (at 5 knots). I have used a 3.5 and a 2.5 on all of my C Dorys. It is enough to get you to safety. Not going to make a lot of speed into wind and waves, but neither is a 8 hp--If. you get an 8 or 9 then get a "sail drive",or"big foot". motor which swings a larger diameter, lower pitch prop.

Have done a lot of trolling with 2.5 to 5 hp motors on boats similar in under water lines as the c dory 22/19. There are some who say you need a 15 (I challenge that-because it is nothing but a 9, which is allowed better breathing, restrictor plates/valve timing/carburation etc. The 25--you might as well have twin 40's..

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rickw



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:41 pm    Post subject: Thanks for the great replies! Reply with quote

Makes me very interested in a19’ Angler. Anyone have one for sale besides those listed?
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