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chipwagon
Joined: 02 Mar 2016 Posts: 53 City/Region: Victoria
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sam 'n Leo
Photos: Sam 'n Leo
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:32 pm Post subject: Making or buying a cockpit cover for a 22 |
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So I'm going to being mooring my boat a 6 hours away from home this year. I can't really have any friendly phone calls from the marina to come check my boat because a pump failed and the rain is filling up the cockpit. I think the smart way to go is a sloping cockpit cover. There has been a few threads talking about them but I'm wondering 1) How hard are they to make? I can't sew and haven't worked with fabric. 2) Is there somewhere I could order one from that would have all the dimensions for a 22 cruiser (from Canada!)? _________________ -Blair |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21469 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:17 am Post subject: |
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It would be fairly easy to make a slant back cockpit cover from Shelter Rite (from Sailrite), use HH 66 glue. Use lift the dot fasteners along the gunnel on the outside.
Pro, totally waterproof, no sewing, easy to do. Con: heavy, and bulkier to store.
I would be happy to walk you through the steps from getting fabric, making patterns, putting awning rail on cabin top, and fabrication of the slant back.
Here is a link to the shelter rite fabric. All of the other materials can be obtained from Sailrite.
You start by placing an awning rail (aluminum preferred) along the back edge on top of the cabin. Then glue several pieces of the ShelterRite fabric together, and then to the bolt rope for the Awning Rail. Next take the pieces of fabric over the back of the boat and start marking where they will fall as close to the edge of the back of the outsides of the gunnel and side of the cabin. Across the back, to the splash well and out over the lazarett to the outside of the boat's gunnels.
Here is one example:
And a more fitted example:
 _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
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Home port: Pensacola FL |
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MannyBridge
Joined: 30 Aug 2017 Posts: 14 City/Region: Nanaimo
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Star
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:48 am Post subject: |
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I made a full cockpit enclosure for our 25 a few years ago using supplies from Sailrite - sewing machine, fabric, zippers, etc. It was a fun challenge and the sewing machine has come in handy for lots of other projects. I plan to make a slant back cover this winter as well.
I do have a slant back cockpit cover from a CD 22 we owned before the 25. It may need a few modifications to fit your boat, or maybe not. It does not have an awning rail as Bob describes (snaps only) so you may want to follow his advice and add one.
Id be happy to give it to you the next time you are passing through Nanaimo, no charge. I assume you come through on the way to your boat.
Nathan |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21469 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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A wonderful offer from "MannyBridge". It is easy to put the male lift the dot, fasteners on the cabin top; (Again from sail rite--).
Sewing is a great way to go, (I have two machines, an old Pfaff 332, all metal gears. And also an older commercial portable Brother. The Pfaff can do fancy stitches, but I don't have the cams. It is rugged machine, and will sew up to 10 layers of canvas. It has a small throat, thus a little more difficult for repair canvas Particularly. Both a double and single walking foots are available for this machine, which was made in 1957.
The Brother has all sorts of fancy stitches. The Brother. has over 100,000 "sea miles" on my cruising boats....A larger throat, and built in cams for fancy stitches.
Occasionally these great older machines can be bought a garage sales for very low prices. My Pfaff was $ 30 with many accessories. My dad bought the "Brother" new at a going out of business sale of a sewing machine sale. Many apparently had rejected it because it was "too heavy," and "too big"!
However the reason I mention the glue construction, is that it does not need an investment in a fairly expensive sewing machine. Definitely if you want to do multiple projects, then it really pays to get a Sail rite or similar machine. There is an almost identical Chinese machine, but it is rough, for much less.
Now if I want to be serious, I have a friend who has a Consew industrial, with 1 hp servo motor--and a foot clutch. This was used for making sails, so has a deep throat. |
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MannyBridge
Joined: 30 Aug 2017 Posts: 14 City/Region: Nanaimo
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Star
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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I agree older sewing machines can be just as good if not better than new. I started work on the cockpit enclosure using a Husqvarna machine built in 1980. I got it at a garage sale and it had a low gear for canvas work. It was fine until I got into stitching the vinyl windows. I looked for a used machine like the ones described but I was in a hurry to move the project along so I got a new one from Sailrite. In hindsight I should have gone with a longer throated model given the limitations described above. Either way I am not sure I would want to be without it now. Curtains, cushions ,etc, etc. |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21469 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Good thick and quality clear vinyl is very difficult to sew. Dodgers on sailboats are particularly hard to build--try it with lexan!
We needed to sew repairs on a 1000 sq foot Genoa, which had been damaged in a storm--we actually had to go hundred of miles to find a sailmaker with deep enough throat to do the repair. When you build new canvas/sails, you sew so there is no more than anywhere from 15" to 40" on the material you are adding. That will go thru a fairly small throat when rolled up. |
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chipwagon
Joined: 02 Mar 2016 Posts: 53 City/Region: Victoria
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sam 'n Leo
Photos: Sam 'n Leo
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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MannyBridge wrote: | I made a full cockpit enclosure for our 25 a few years ago using supplies from Sailrite - sewing machine, fabric, zippers, etc. It was a fun challenge and the sewing machine has come in handy for lots of other projects. I plan to make a slant back cover this winter as well.
I do have a slant back cockpit cover from a CD 22 we owned before the 25. It may need a few modifications to fit your boat, or maybe not. It does not have an awning rail as Bob describes (snaps only) so you may want to follow his advice and add one.
Id be happy to give it to you the next time you are passing through Nanaimo, no charge. I assume you come through on the way to your boat.
Nathan |
Nathan, that is a fantastic offer, I would love to take that off your hands! I'm sure I could get it to fit my boat. I'd to offer you some bucks for it. I'll PM you later.
Thanks! Blair |
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Marco Flamingo
Joined: 09 Jul 2015 Posts: 1165 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Limpet
Photos: Limpet
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Be very careful when mounting your fastening hardware to the boat that you don't cause any problems. If you drill into any cored areas, you must go through the "epoxy fill" process noted elsewhere on this site.
I made a very elaborate cockpit cover using vinyl coated polyester fabric (like Shelter Rite from Sailrite) using HH66. Surprisingly easy and very durable. But for those of us living where the weather gets colder (i.e., anything below 60F), the cover gets progressively stiffer. When removing in 40 degree weather, it's like trying to hand-fold sheet metal.
Mark
Note: My mother-in-law just gifted me her old Brother. Way faster than my other machine (a Singer treadle that also has a hand crank). Turns out the Brother will also do leather. Don't know if it will do it for a century like the Singer has done. |
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chipwagon
Joined: 02 Mar 2016 Posts: 53 City/Region: Victoria
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sam 'n Leo
Photos: Sam 'n Leo
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Big thank you and shout out to MannyBridge who very kindly gave me the slant back cover from his previous 22 cruiser.
Fits perfectly and I can see and end to my worries of a failed bilge and rain filled cockpit.
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