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Byrdman
Joined: 06 Nov 2003
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City/Region: Cumberland River, Clarksville,
State or Province: WA
Vessel Name: " ? " After Rename Ceremony
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missing boat...
Call Roger or Beth if found. Boat last seen with no motor or any other items on the transom headed towards Auburn, WA...
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Patrick Byrd "Byrdman"
Cumberland River TN home waters Puget Sound Summers.
Miss B - CD22A, Aug 2018
C-Byrd, CD18A, Hull #14 sold again.. May 2020
C-Byrd, CD18A, Hu #14 - Bought her again - May16
Aloysius, Sold to Brother Mike Mar16
Aloysius, Hull # 440 RF-246
C-Byrd, CD18A, Hull #14 Sold May09
TC24, Hull #51, Sold Feb06
CD16A, Sold Dec03
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Byrdman
Joined: 06 Nov 2003
Posts: 3329
City/Region: Cumberland River, Clarksville,
State or Province: WA
Vessel Name: " ? " After Rename Ceremony
Photos: FreeByrd and C-Byrd
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| Hummm....we have created a monster...!! |
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Les Lampman
Dealer
Joined: 30 Oct 2003
Posts: 779
City/Region: Whidbey Island
State or Province: WA
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: 21 E.C sea trial |
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| Wefings wrote: | Byrdman and I had our seatrial yesterday and were both impressed by the little tug . We were running in smooth water on the Intracoastal here in Apalachicola . The boat has a unique character and is very different from the C Dory experience . The little Yanmar has a nice sound to it although the cabin is somewhat resonant . It was nice running around 2600 R.P.M making around 8 M.P.H . The rudder is huge and we were both wondering about the manuverability which turns out to be excellent . The boat is more tender than a dory as it has a rounded hull shape but is not unpleasant .We got a few wakes and the boat plowed straight through them and across them with no problem, although I suspect the boats best use is in fairly calm water.The bow rises with throttle setting somewhat and we found it running flat at 2600. The key concept for this boat is to slow down and enjoy the ride .
Marc |
I'd like to share my views as well.
The first run of the CR21 was on a very stormy Friday afternoon here (near Deception Pass). The wind was literally howling and there were whitecaps in Cornet Bay which is farily unusual. The first test was launching and that turned out to be quite easy. I'll add here that retrieving the boat wasn't much of a chore either. I'll also add that I was by my self; strictly a solo operation.
I woud disagree with the assessment that the boat is best used in farily calm conditions. That would belie the boat's desgin hertitage and would run counter to the experience I had with the boat in the above conditons (I've since had the boat out more and confirmed my original impressions). It was quite a mixmaster that day with all the wind, the waves and the currents near the pass. The boat handled these conditions more comfortably than any other boat I've been in of the same size (that's 52 years worth of being on the water). It was far more comfortable than a C-Dory 22 would have been in the same conditions. Notice I didn't say "safer"; I would have been quite willing and unconcerned about running a C-Dory 22 Cruiser in the same conditions...I just wouldn't have been as physically confortable. If you're at 10 mph or below in garbage conditions the CD22 just isn't going to be a comfortable as the CR21; that's the CR21's forte and not the CD22's (the CD22 gets even when the water lays down a bit and can run at higher speeds). Speeds over 7 mph or so give you bow lift (the boat cuts nicely and stays very dry) and lift in the stern resulting in a very stable ride.
I would also assess the C-Ranger 21's tenderness a bit differently. At 5'10" and 200 pounds I find that when stepping directly on to the side deck of each boat that the CR21 reacts a bit more quickly but doesn't drop as far as the CD22 and then just stops; even jumping up and down won't produce more roll. There's a pronounced difference in the two boats when making a trip forward; the CR21 reacts very little and the CD22 rolls quite a lot.
I do agree with the resonance heard in the cabin at speed but I can still carry on a conversation and even listen to the stereo. I wouldn't say that it's "louder" than a CD22 at cruise rpm but there's more a "thrum" element to it. I found I enjoyed 2200 to 2400 rpm quite well; once I got used to the sound of the engine I ran at a steady 3000 rpm. WOT throttle on this boat with 10-gallons of fuel and 2 adults was 3400 rpm.
Anyone worried about maneuvering the C-Ranger 21 because it's a single engine inboard can stop being concerned. It handles amazingly well (and will back to either direction); anyone comfortable with handling a boat will not have much to learn when operating the CR21.
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B~C
Joined: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 2872
City/Region: Bend
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 1999
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Blue~C
Photos: Blue~C
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I don't know what to make of the C-Ranger, but I do think it's good to see Les has made his way out of the shop and back to the pub 
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Les Lampman
Dealer
Joined: 30 Oct 2003
Posts: 779
City/Region: Whidbey Island
State or Province: WA
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Byrdman
Joined: 06 Nov 2003
Posts: 3329
City/Region: Cumberland River, Clarksville,
State or Province: WA
Vessel Name: " ? " After Rename Ceremony
Photos: FreeByrd and C-Byrd
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Les: Glad to see you back on the site! Have enjoyed reading your post on this. I need to say for Marc that he was disadvantaged by the water conditions, or lack there of...very flat.... the only day I could make it down to FL to get me my 1st ride on the CR-21. Yep, we talked about the guys who have toured in Alaska in the boats had to hit some of every type of water imaginable....and the boats being "molded" after the Bristol Bay would surely allow this boat to follow it's lineage and ride true in ruff waters. My assessment on the ruff waters was viewed from the point if I had 4 guest on the boat, with one or two of them on the aft bench seat or on the motor box....the spray may be of concern...but even that could be fixed with some simple modifications. We did take spray into the aft sections, and, if your company were "dry" clothes...just going down to the docks for dinner, there may be some issues. At the same time, we talked of how nice the low to the water gunnels were for getting fish, shrimp nets (down here), shrimp baskets (up there)...and other items in over the sides. I can not wait to take up the offer to come back out and get her out in some nasty waters by some old C-Salty Navy friend of mine up in the Oak Harbor area. Yep, I think this boat is a winner and you have to love that fuel economy too.....
Les, Thanks for your post. It is truly great to see you came out of the shop and got out on a boat.... wish I could have made it. That seem to be an issue with Marc too... Yall need to commit to a once a month 4 hour period of "gotta get out on the water so we remember why we do this kinda work for these boat loving folks" ride...
Heading north in a few hours.... so may be off for a few days |
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