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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:10 pm    Post subject: Dinghy Rack on Ranger Tug 27 and Cutwater Reply with quote

Last night, I was reading Power and Motor Yacht magazine. I saw this innovate dinghy rack on the Ranger 27 and Cutwater. I think it could be applied to the C Dory.

The use of a winch on a pedestal (scotty outrigger mount?) was a little clumsy. I suspect it could be done with a block and tackle 3:1 or 4:1--The Garhauer davit is 6:1 and it easily lifts 65#.

It might cut down the rear view--but my boat has a video camera to the rear anyway...

Has anyone seen this in action? Clever idea!. (I did post it on "what did you do on your C Dory", in ref to a light weight dinghy thread. The ramp to the dinghy would have to be on the side of the swim step--and if you had a kicker it might be in the way? Articulate directly from the transom, just above the Swim Step level? May require a "jog" in the forward arm??

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We saw this at the boat show last year and it looks well built and should work just fine. The downrigger mounts are a lot sturdier than you think. I mean your dragging a 12 to 20 lbs lead ball at 120 ft or so of depth at 2 to 4 knots while bouncing the ball on the bottom. Its got to hold up.

My problem with the whole dinghy davit is fishing> you are not going to like fishing out of that boat with the dingly there. Over the stern is where you fight the fish 99% of the time. You will not be able to see the fish when its close to the boat , Netting just got more difficult with that set up. If we were to by a 27 ranger, and we would like to , I will remove the ( to me ) useless solar panels and place the dingy there , maybe with a davit of some sort. Those solar panels take up way to much room with little or no benefit to me. I never spent more than one day on anchor or a dock. we are running or fishing almost every day. On the rare occasion that we do sit for a few days I will just idle the main for a few hours to charge the batteries. That is what we do now.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like quite the contraption, although it does get the job done. Probably pretty pricy though.

You could make something like that for a C-Dory, but it'd have to mount to the hull or have dual swim steps.

The C-Dory does not have a OB bracket, so the stowed dinghy would probably intrude into the cockpit space.

Have to remove the motor from the dinghy before overturning it unless you had and electric motor like Torqueedo.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could do that on a cdory if you made the rig part of the roof extension. I mean if the pivot point was near the stern and ( when stored) went straight up to a frame that extended to the roof line or the radar arch / roof rack. You detact from arch and rotate back and down to the water line. Dinghy would be sitting on its stern with nose up. ( would have to start in the stored position upside down) then push it over on its hull. That is a good idea. Cover the frame in canvas as a sun shade. yeah that would work. 3/4 alum tube should work. Good I wish I could weld.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've wondered if the fishing rod holders on both sides of the stern could be used as an attachment point for some davits. Some HD SS tubing with the right bends could work. Could be removed easily when not in use.





Looking at this pic of Emma Mae, perhaps someone has a clever idea incorporating the bimini frame in conjunction with the rod holders.




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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both good points. I did't think that the Scotty base wasn't up to it, but the winch on a pipe was what I was referring to. I have used a winch on dinghy davits, and it was incorporated in the design or I used an electric winch--for the ($8,000)price of the lift, they ought to throw in an electric winch ($300 or so).

I might play around with a model or a PVC pipe mock up. We don't fish that much off the boat--we have the Caracal center console for that. The video doesn't show snapping in what looks to be a lock like the Weaver Davit system. There could be several ways of rigging it--but the upside down carriage attitude appeals.

There may be some way to leave the articulations on the swim step side free, so the boat can come to the swim step for getting out of the boat, and then snap that in place before hoisting the boat to vertical and then flipping it...

Where is Micah Curtis when we need him? I suspect he could design and weld up a rig. He has not posted since mid August. Hope that all is OK!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can move any photos right now, but if you look in my album, first page, down 3 and second from the left, there is a photo of my boat with the dingy over the cockpit. (Open that sub album and ther are several more pix of that from closer and different angles.) That rack is made of stainless pipe, not tubing, and is string enought to tow or lift on, including lifting the stern of the boat. Could mount a lifting winch onto either side.

(If someone wants to move one of those pix to this thread, you are welcome, and thank you.)

In the photo above, where those rod holders are mounted, I have bases for the downriggers. (FYI, I don't fish so my ne downriggers will go with the boat when it sells --- NOT YET.)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I built a similar rack on Discovery for a 2007 winter in the Florida Keys. I made it of stainless tube and it mounted off the swimstep hand rails.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a stainles pipe rack for a 22 Cruiser. Stout.





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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if the up rights for the bikini top / dinghy holder were curved then the whole thing could rotate bach and down with our touching the stern. I need to draw this out and post it.
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