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kennharriet
Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 512 City/Region: Grangeville
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:06 am Post subject: Baystar Hydraulic Steering |
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I am in the process of upgrading to Baystar Hydraulic steering. I have the helm pump installed and the cylinder mechanism mounted on the Honda 75 hp. Would someone mind sending me a pic of how their tubing is routed and connected to the cylinder in the splashwell on their CD22. Just a pic from the cockpit looking at the front of the motor and splashwell would be great. Thank you, Ken |
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dgeorges
Joined: 04 Sep 2013 Posts: 182 City/Region: Highlands Ranch
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Congrats on making the decision to change to hydraulic steering. You will enjoy the ease of steering, and how well you can hold a course.
Don't have any photos for you right now, will post later this week for you (my CD22 is not stored at my house).
I too have a Baystar hydraulic steering system installed in my CD22 and had same in my CD16 that I just sold. You will find it easy to install. Make sure you leave plenty of "loop" in the lines at the motor so the back and forth movement doesn't pinch the lines. I allowed 12" of diameter which works well.
For me, the harder portion of the install was how the tubes connect at the back of the helm. Get it right, and all is well. Get it wrong, and you get hydraulic fluid leakage. The trick is making sure the tubes at the helm have a nice gentle sweep into the fittings.
Good luck with your install. Photos coming as soon as I can.
cheers,
D _________________ "Ain't no nookie like Chinookie"---Ray Troll
CD 22 Cruiser "FRESH FISH: 2018 to present.
CD 16 Angler "OPA": 2013 to 2019. |
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kennharriet
Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 512 City/Region: Grangeville
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you. |
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Knipet
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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dgeorges,
I too would like to see those photos as upgrading to hydraulic steering is on my short list of improvements to make.
Cheers!
- Steve |
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kennharriet
Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 512 City/Region: Grangeville
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Steve, I’ll give you a report when I get mine done. 🙂 |
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jakevolvo@yahoo.com
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Knipet
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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kennharriet wrote: | Steve, I’ll give you a report when I get mine done. 🙂 |
That would be great Ken, it's an upgrade that I would like to do soon as well, but I'll let you go first and show me how it went! |
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kennharriet
Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 512 City/Region: Grangeville
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the pic. I hate to admit it but the reason I asked is that I cut the tubing a bit short on the initial install, not realizing how much travel there is in the tubing. It would have worked but was not right so I ordered a tubing kit to redo it right. Any tricks to filling and bleeding the hydraulic fluid? Hanks again. Ken |
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journey on
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Here's the procedure I used for bleeding a Seastar hydraulic system. It's generic enough to use on the Baystar system.
Hydraulic Fluid for Baystar/Seastar
Boris |
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WeekiTiki
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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And here I am feeling happy that the boat I'm looking at
Doesn't have hydraulic steering
Guess I really can't make an educated comment until I try it out
All I know is when those lines get old, they're impossible to patch
Pulled existing line from my Mako and took it to the hydraulic shop
New fitting didn't last but minutes |
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WeekiTiki
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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...have to say, hydraulic steering is nice
Depends on just how far the helm is from the transom
But I hear you, need to take one more addition into account on my purchase
This place really blows my mind on just how much info there is
Thanks
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WeekiTiki
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:17 am Post subject: |
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Only had two steering failures
And the second one was due to my trying to repair the broken hydraulic line
in lieu of just replacing it
Luckily both episodes were not at speed in the channel
Luckily both were while idling
And I do remember just how hard the teleflex steering was on my old Proline
where the helm was forward probably 16 feet from the big six outboard
New hydraulic is awesome
Old, not so much |
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kennharriet
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Boris for the bleeding tips and fluid recommendation discussion. |
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bmcminn
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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I have the Baystar hh4314-3 steering. I feel like it should take less turning. Is this so that when you're at full throttle a tiny jiggle doesn't throw you off course?
Is it adjustable? I just looked through the manual and didn't see anything.
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Micahbigsur@msn.com
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:18 am Post subject: |
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It is not adjustable, lock to lock is determined by the helm pump. A different helm pump would do it but that isn't very practical and it would be hard to find one that is compatible.
Changing the ram cylinder to a different fluid capacity/length might be easier, but these are sold as a balanced system kit so it would take a lot of research or find a really good expert to change it. Call the company maybe they have different kits? _________________ Micah Curtis and Dana, RN
2003 C-dory 25 Sierra, 200, 9.9 and 2.5 Suzukis
2012 R25 SC Sequoia (2015-2018)
1978 Folkes 38 SV Audacious (2006-2015)
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