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Larry H
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2041 City/Region: Tulalip,
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1991
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Photos: Nancy H
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:21 am Post subject: |
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We have now spent the last 9 weeks cruising and living aboard our 2014 Ranger Tug 27 (the classic model). We are now in Refuge Cove, Desolation Sound, BC, traveling south to follow summer. This has been our first long cruise on this boat and we will stay out in the Gulf Islands until the weather goes bad.
The more we use this boat, the more we like it. It is compact and loaded with comforts and is a very comfortable boat. Right now the Webasto is keeping the cabin warm, and dinner is on the stove. The interior is pleasant with teak paneling. We like it!
We cruise at 11 knots on the 200hp Volvo shaft drive, getting 1.5 MPG on diesel. Not the best mileage, but we have 9-10,000 lbs of boat and gear. All this and it still trailers, and stores in our driveway.
Not a toy at all! _________________ Larry H
A C-Brat since Nov 1, 2003
Ranger Tug 27 ex 'Jacari Maru' 2017 - 2022
Puget Trawler 37 ex 'Jacari Maru' 2006-2017
1991 22' Cruiser, 'Nancy H'--1991-2006 |
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South of Heaven
Joined: 15 Aug 2015 Posts: 1459 City/Region: Sharon
State or Province: MA
Photos: Blue Water
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:12 am Post subject: |
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I WANT A C41. C Dory 41! Here are the specs that I want!
LOA: 41'
WL: 40'
BEAM: 14'
POWER: Single 500 CAT diesel
That's a start! _________________ <><><> Jason <><><>
2005 Silverton 35 Motoryacht (Twin 385 Crusaders) (SOLD 6/20)
2000 Camano 31 Troll (Volvo TAMD41p) (SOLD 2/19)
2007 C Dory 25' Cruiser (200 hp Suzuki, sold 7/17)
2003 C Dory 19' Angler (80 hp Yamaha, sold 7/16)
1995 C Dory 16' Angler (40 hp Yamaha, sold 2/16) |
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Foggy
Joined: 01 Aug 2013 Posts: 1524 City/Region: Traverse City; Northern Lake Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2014
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Boatless in Boating Paradise
Photos: W B Nod
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:52 am Post subject: |
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Too big for my taste buds. Waaaay too much superstructure.
Can't imagine putting this tanker in a slip in a blow w/o twin
engines astern and double V8 bow thrusters.
Did you realize when the wind speed doubles (say from 8 knots
to 16 knots) the force (energy) per square foot of exposed hull/sail/window
increases by a factor of 8 times! Double = factor of 2. Therefore,
2 x 2 x 2 = 8 OK, don't take my word for it.
http://www.vftt.org/forums/showthread.php?55436-An-Explanation-of-Wind-Speed-and-Power
Most boaters won't be able to handle this kinda stress.
Aye.
Grandpa used to say, "Listen to the wind. The wind will tell you what to do." _________________ "I don't want any cake" - said no one ever.
If someone tells you they don't eat cake, unfriend them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life. |
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westward
Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 718 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1985
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: TBD
Photos: Steady Eddy
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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When I said "toy-like" I really meant no disrespect to Ranger owners or the Mfg.
It's just the term which best describes how I view them. I am reminded of their appeal every time we leave Skyline, when my wife says: "I really like that one (a Ranger 25 or 27), it's really cute". I realize most folks like them and I'm in the minority. I tend to prefer more of a utilitarian work boat style myself. After having owned 3 C-Dories I switched to a welded aluminum Stabicraft. Not considered cute at all, and definitely short on amenities, but she handles the rough stuff like a champ and serves our purposes very well. To each his own! |
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rogerbum
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 5922 City/Region: Kenmore
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Meant to be
Photos: SeaDNA
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Foggy wrote: | <stuff clipped>
Can't imagine putting this tanker in a slip in a blow w/o twin
engines astern and double V8 bow thrusters.
Did you realize when the wind speed doubles (say from 8 knots
to 16 knots) the force (energy) per square foot of exposed hull/sail/window
increases by a factor of 8 times! Double = factor of 2. <more stuff clipped> |
The beauty of the IPS drives is that the boat can go forward, backward or sideways with a simple joystick control. It can even be set to hold position and direction. Docking this 41 footer will be as easy (or easier) than docking a small C-dory. _________________ Roger on Meant to be |
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Larry H
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2041 City/Region: Tulalip,
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1991
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Photos: Nancy H
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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I watched a 60 footer dock in strong current and wind. the IPS and joystick brought the boat to the dock, almost touching, and the helmsman left the flybridge, climbed down, and tied up the boat. The engines and IPS drives kept the boat exactly in place while the dock lines were attached.
The drives are designed to break away on impact, without sinking the boat. Volvo says that replacing a drive is less expensive than the damage a shaft drive boat would incur from the same log or rock strike. |
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Fairbro
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 313 City/Region: Prescott
State or Province: WI
C-Dory Year: 2001
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Minnie Swann
Photos: Minnie Swann
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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westward wrote: | In my opinion, just my opinion, the Ranger boats seem to have a "toy-like" quality to them. Feature packed, shiny, and almost should be sold at Costco. Hard to argue with their market success however. |
When I first saw the pictures in July my first thoughts were it’s too busy looking. I didn’t post anything because I was afraid of violating the “just be nice” motto. Well...I actually thought with all of the seating modules, towers and the tubing stantions on the swim deck it looked like a Lego boat. I felt the same way about the interior. I’m definitely not the target buyer for this category of boat so my opinion doesn’t mean squat! I am pleased that I’m not alone in my personal assessment though. _________________ Gary & Gerrie former Minnie Swann owners
It's something in the water! |
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westward
Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 718 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1985
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: TBD
Photos: Steady Eddy
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Fairbro:
You raise an excellent general issue. Here is my thought process: I initially had the same reservations, that my honest remarks would be offensive to some. I concluded it would be OK since this isn't a Ranger Tugs forum. (I would not have posted the same remarks on TugNuts, where they would have served no useful purpose). People on this site have historically had no problem criticizing Bayliner boats or the ill-fated CD 29 for example, and fairly I believe. Scrutiny, review, and assessment are some of the strengths of the internet, and one needs to consider every source. The people offended appear to mostly be Ranger owners which is understandable given their investment. But if I'm considering buying a boat (or truck, or RV, or TV set) and I'm looking for information, I want to see all opinions and feedback to help me decide. Foggy, for example, posted concerns about windage, which would be very important to know BEFORE making such a big purchase. I do hope the comments remain civil and non-personal, but I guess it's up to every contributor to self-police, and the moderators to "lower the boom" when we go too far. |
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Jazzmanic
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 2231 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
Photos: C-Dancer
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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No offense taken Mike. To each his own. I wanted a head, a shower, more room and an outboard. I got all that with our new R23, Island Time. The boat is comfortable and seaworthy. She flies over chop that C-Dancer would have to slow way down for. Barely any pounding like we experienced with the CD. Obviously that's the difference between a deep-v and semi-dory hull.
But as all have stated over the years, there is a compromise. As in much higher fuel burn, lots of systems to pay attention to, handling in tight quarters more challenging, raw water head a bit of a pain. Even with a bigger, roomier cockpit on the R23, I still like fishing off of C-Dancer better. However, we really like the new boat, I really like the smooth, fast ride and the ample headroom in cabin and v-berth; just a very comfortable boat. I still have a lot to learn about lsland Time, not like C-Dancer where I felt like I knew her like the back of my hand after 12 years of ownership. I miss the simplicity of C-Dorys with minimal systems and the nimbleness in handling. As you can tell, I'm torn between the old and the new. Both good boats, just very different.
Peter _________________ Peter & Caryn
C-Dancer - 2005 22' Cruiser 2005-2017
Island Time - 2018 Ranger Tug 23 2017-2022
Email: pjamero@gmail.com |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Peter, It took me 4 years after I bought SleepyC before I could come to grips with selling my sailboat. Just wasn't sure which one I liked best. But now I know and the story is written. Just like with C-Dory back when Andrew and Jeff were there. They had a dream, know-how, and expertise, and C-Dory didn't see it the same way. I'm glad there are still C-Dorys, but every time I see there advertising tag line, "You are not just buying a boat, but joining our family" I get a twinge, because that started with C-Dory.
Andrew, Thanks for popping up here. Great to see you. I was at Roche the morning your Ranger/Cutwater get together started. What a spectacular accomplishment. When talking with boaters along the way, the story of C-Dory often includes the beginning of the Rangers as well.
I have boated much of the PNW waters and have seen Rangers and Cutwaters at near every turn. They are fine, capable vessels, just not my style. I'd rather drive a CJ-5 than a Hummer.
Harvey
SleepyC
_________________ Though in our sleep we are not conscious of our activity or surroundings, we should not, in our wakefulness, be unconscious of our sleep. |
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westward
Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 718 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1985
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: TBD
Photos: Steady Eddy
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Peter: I'm glad you guys are enjoying your new vessel. I suspect, in her "heart of hearts", the Admiral to whom I report would much rather have your Ranger than what we currently have, or what I want to buy next. Especially this time of year when the weather turns cold. Every year at the Boat Show I notice that the wives take a shine to the Rangers, and I believe wives, or at least wives' consent, drives the brand selection in most major boat purchases. I also know that Ranger managed to prosper through the Recession when most other manufacturers scaled back, sold out, or went under. Ranger is definitely doing much right from a business and marketing perspective. Just not my style I guess. I am thankful that experienced boaters like yourself are able to offer opinions and insight to help inform our purchase decisions. Not that I'd ever purchase another boat... |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3387 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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westward wrote: | ... I believe wives, or at least wives' consent, drives the brand selection in most major boat purchases. ... |
As always, "Happy wife, happy life!" |
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Jazzmanic
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 2231 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
Photos: C-Dancer
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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ssobol wrote: | westward wrote: | ... I believe wives, or at least wives' consent, drives the brand selection in most major boat purchases. ... |
As always, "Happy wife, happy life!" |
Thanks Harvey for your insight.
Mike and ssobol, spot on! |
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Robert H. Wilkinson
Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 1236 City/Region: Port Ryerse
State or Province: ON
Vessel Name: Romakeme IV
Photos: Romakeme IV
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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hardee wrote: | I'd rather drive a CJ-5 than a Hummer. |
Harvey, I worked for AMC back when the CJ's were flying out the doors - from 1974 to 1980. Wish I could go back in a time machine and buy a new one today! _________________ Talk to me and I will listen-- but if its not about boats or fishing all I will hear is bla,bla,bla,yada,yada,zzzzzzzz |
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