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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8555 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
Photos: Daydream and Crabby Lou
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:02 pm Post subject: Anybody within 300 Miles North of Charleston Able to Help? |
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We are on the Great Loop, as many of you know! We are in Charleston, SC, right now. A couple of days ago I tried to line up a mobile marine mechanic to do an oil change here. The guy was booked solid for a week, and we can't hang here for a week!
We would be eternally grateful if anyone within about 300 miles north of Charleston who has a trailer that can accommodate a C-Dory 25 could meet us at some boat ramp to haul us out to allow us to do an oil change. If you can help, please PM me, and thanks! _________________
DAYDREAM - CD25 Cruiser
CRABBY LOU - CD16 Angler (sold 2020)
Pat & Patty Anderson, C-Brat #62!
http://daydreamsloop.blogspot.com
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BrentB
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 4419 City/Region: Greenwood
State or Province: IN
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Would top sider pump or equivalent work? or an electric pump
and pulss oil out of dip stick tube?
I have this one
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_390306_390306
Not sure where the oil filter is located on a Honda but Yamaha F225, I loosen filter slightly, tilt the OB up and unscrew filter into one gallon baggie with paper towels.
Make sure the oil is hot before pumping, and raise and lower the OB a few times to remove as much as trapped oil as possible
Just need a few tools
oil filter socket type tool
ratchet drive and extensions and may be other sockets
paper towels
hand soap
dispo gloves
5 gal bucket with lid or leave in top sider and transport to recycle facilty
new oil and filter (lube it before installing)
m2cw _________________ Brent Barrett |
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Valkyrie
Joined: 09 Jan 2005 Posts: 1028 City/Region: Loudonville
State or Province: OH
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Valkyrie II
Photos: Valkyrie
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Pat,
Check email.
Nick |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3386 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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That is one disadvantage of going at hull speed. You run the engine hours up getting anywhere. Granted you probably save more money on gas than the extra oil changes cost you (on a per mile basis). But if you are travelling long distances you have to figure out how to fit the oil changes in.
It may be possible to change the engine oil when afloat. Changing the lower unit oil would be trickier.
I would just find a marina with a sling lift. Haul the boat out and leave it on the sling while you change the oil. Would only take about an hour for the engine and the lower unit. Plus they could adjust the boat to a convenient working height. Might want to do the impeller while you're at it.
You would have to pay for the lift time, but I think most marinas have a rate for this for people who haul their boats out to power wash the hull, change the zincs, etc. |
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jkidd
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 1627 City/Region: Northern, Utah
State or Province: UT
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Voyager
Photos: Voyager (JK)
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Pat get one of these they work great you can use to remove or add oil thru the dip stick tube.
_________________ Jody Kidd
KE7WNG
Northern, Utah
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Barry Rietz
Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 411 City/Region: Sierra Vista
State or Province: AZ
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:53 am Post subject: Oil Change |
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Jody, Was this on eBay or ? _________________ Barry Rietz
N9DXC |
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jkidd
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 1627 City/Region: Northern, Utah
State or Province: UT
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Voyager
Photos: Voyager (JK)
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:03 am Post subject: |
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llcundiff
Joined: 30 May 2016 Posts: 5 City/Region: Versailles
State or Province: KY
C-Dory Year: 1984
C-Dory Model: 22 Classic
Vessel Name: PrairieBoy
Photos: PrairieBoy
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:49 am Post subject: Helpful marina in Wilmington |
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Pat, I just saw this post on the great loop Facebook page. They might be able to help you out.
Big thank you to the latest bunch of Loopers passing through!
Cape Fear Marina at Bennett Brothers Yachts is the "Best!"
Wilmington NC is a wonderful stop.
Let me extend a "Free Week" to all Loopers passing through on their way north.
-Knowledge
-Repair
-Safe Haven
-Brokerage Support
-Fun
All found at BBY!
See you soon
Contact: Peter Kurki 910-380-3738
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8555 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
Photos: Daydream and Crabby Lou
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Thanks all for your comments!
Dr. Bob thought a pump would not be able to completely evacuate the oil. I do like the idea of renting sling time - they had a sling that would have worked at Isle of Hope marina.
I am torn between just paying a marine mechanic to do the service to be sure it is done correctly, or getting what I need to do it myself. Larry Grunden showed me how to change the oild correctly but I do not have a mechanical mind! There are always YouTube videos! Then I would need transportation to a West Marine or a Honda dealer for the stuff for the lower unit lube. I recall the oil change was messy even in our driveway.
Like Sheriff Andy told Aunt Bea when her freezer went out, "Call the man. Just call the man!" |
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Fairbro
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 313 City/Region: Prescott
State or Province: WI
C-Dory Year: 2001
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Minnie Swann
Photos: Minnie Swann
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:02 am Post subject: |
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OK, let me stick my 2 cents worth in here. The solutions already proposed seem a little expensive and/or inconvenient to me. Sling service must be. Why not call back the booked-up service guy and make him this offer: if you can get one of your booked customers to give me their appointment I will be happy to pay for their service. Or half their service. Or $100 bucks etc. Worth a call just to show you are open to negotiation? _________________ Gary & Gerrie former Minnie Swann owners
It's something in the water! |
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BTDT
Joined: 07 Jan 2011 Posts: 322 City/Region: Grand Lake Oklahoma
State or Province: OK
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: C- Lark Wine Down
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:55 am Post subject: |
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My two cents and at the high risk of getting flamed- I have been using oil vacuum pumps for years with no problems. How much new oil it takes to get to get back to the full level will confirm how much you got out. [Edit- I like BrentB's OB tilting idea and will try that next time]
My Honda 150 owner's manual recommends an oil filter change at 200 hours versus engine oil at 100. My engines have 2500 hours and still going strong. I personally would extend my gear case oil changes given the daily use while on the loop, but would check for moisture presence at least every 100 hours.
I have changed oil filters while on the water by covering the filter with a plastic bag after the initial 1/4 turn release. I also put rags/paper towels underneath the filter just in case, and have yet to spill a drop. I also found it much easier to back the boat into shallow water and stand outside the boat when working on the engine.
My favorite vacuum pump is the TRAC fluid extractor because of its compact size and easy to carry and dump design. Amazon- Trac Outdoor T10064 Fluid/Oil Extractor by TRAC-Outdoor Products - $39.99 Prime free shipping _________________ John & Vicki Clark
C-Lark Wine Down
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Marco Flamingo
Joined: 09 Jul 2015 Posts: 1155 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Limpet
Photos: Limpet
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:59 am Post subject: |
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I've also used a vacuum pump out for years. First on a boat that had been repowered and it was the only way. Also on a sports car that didn't have clearance for me to climb under easily. To test it's efficiency, I used the pump and then pulled the plug. Not a drop came out. I was sold.
My car, and some outboards, have a magnet in the plug to catch tiny metal dust. But it doesn't have to be cleaned off with every oil change.
I sold the pump with my boat, then bought a better one for my car. I've since sold the car, but still use the pump on my Polaris Ranger. Changing the filter can still be messy, but the rest is a breeze.
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3386 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:31 am Post subject: |
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I don't think it is necessary to get every drop of old oil out anyway. 80-90% should be more than sufficient IMO. Even if you could drain the crankcase completely there is still a bit of oil left in the passages, crevices, clinging to parts, etc. If the 10-20% left behind bothers you, just change it more often.
I'm happy to simply get "most" of the oil out of the motor when I change mine. |
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Discovery
Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 1240 City/Region: LOA, UTAH
State or Province: UT
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Discovery
Photos: Discovery
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Pat, What oil change interval are you shooting for? 100 hrs, 200 hrs? If your running at 2000 RPM or less, is it OK to extend the hours vs. running at 4000 RPM.
I have changed the oil with the extraction pumps a few times. Once at Campbell River, BC and once in the Broughtons. When on long cruises at low RPM's like we did in SE Alaska I went 250 hours over 2 months and 1600 miles. The oil was still as clear as if it had been changed at 100 hours. _________________
Brent and Dixie,
1984 22' Classic sold 2003
2003 24' TomCat sold 2005
2006 TC255 Discovery Sold 2020
2006 CD 22' Angler Sold 2014
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BBlalock
Joined: 31 Jan 2017 Posts: 147 City/Region: Ocean/ICW
State or Province: NC
C-Dory Year: 2013
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Finale
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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I may have what you need. I live on the ICW 5 miles east of Swansboro, NC and I have the right trailer. Also a good ramp to take out. Tools and halfass mech skills. Sending personal email. _________________ Benton Blalock
'13 25' Cruiser "Finale"
'12 22' Fiesta pontoon(sold) |
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