Arima Boys starting to like CD's

[TyBoo]

joew -

Great to here about the SBS. We'll see you there.

You still likin' the new TyBoo? I was just down to the shed visting with it, and man, that sucker is big. Never had to step on the load guide to get into the 22.

See you in a couple!

[joew]

tyboo, i'm definitely still liking the 25. problem is that eating the depreciation on a 2001 22 right now kind of sticks in my craw, particularly since she's paid for! but i can still yearn.....

joew

[Wheeler Dealer]

Hi Calvin,
Thanks for being open. Terrie and I had dreamed of having an Arima 19' and had set a fund for the down-payment. We did a lot of research and felt that this was THE BOAT. We crab and fish Nehalem and Tillamook bays. One day we saw a CD 22' and fell in love with the design. After much research and many test rides we decided that the CD 16' was more what we needed. We had decided on the Arima 19' because it was the smallest with a hard top. After seeing the CD 16' we took one out and found that we liked the fact that the flatter bottom was more stable when we were both on the same side, (ala crabbing, landing 50 lb. pigs ect.) Also, the CD turns on a dime and my wife finds the CD much more responsive to her white knuckle bad weather driving .

In short, these are both great boats and you will be happy either way, but with the CD you get it more affordable and have us Brats here at the Pub to help you decide on all of those wonderful toys you will need with that left over cash.

[Redƒox]

Hey I have been wrong in my estimation of C-Dorys to! A long time ago, in a site far far away... I once wrote when the question was asked (does a C-D drift as "stable" as a "deep-v-hull") Well to say the least.... I have---committed a great-sin! .. (against my C-Dory) with the comment I made then....
I had said in my answer to the gentleman requesting advice from C-Dory owners... "I don't see how a C-Dory can possibly drift as stable as a "deep-v-hull" ....
Well long story short, I had an experience this summer---when I was rafted-up next to my friends, 21-Baylinner-Trophy. A heavier wider and presumably "lower-center-of-gravity-design" (with the inboard engine nesting way down in the hull of the boat---concept!)
Here's the experience I would like to share, instead of just-talking-theory this time...
Tied side-by-side, to this heavier, wider, and presumably "lower center of gravity boat" guess which boat was MUCH more stable..... well my friend, it was not the presumption I had made much earlier---to my surprise and my delight, it was my boat---the RedFox, that was the much-more stable platform to be on!! I was in awe of the spectacle. As a matter of fact I put on my C-Dory-cap and went to work as a very smug and proud----CD-Salesman! -that day.....
Well, one of the reasons I had to come-down so hard on the fella was the fact that he was always telling me how I "needed to get me a deep-v boat some-day" keep in mind this guy once owned a 25-Trophy-walk-around, with twin 175 two-strokes on her! it was a fun boat and all, we could cruise at (45 mph most the time!) I guess that sort of experience (when one is new to boating) sort of blinds a fella to the better characteristic of the C-Dory.
OK, end of my little story. (was going to tell it this last summer but forgot to) I was inspired by the members response to Calvin, and there experiences shared in this round-table discussion. (it jogged my memory)
PS: I'm glad this site works a lot better than mine does (lol)

[lyle-t]

[/quote]PS: I'm glad this site works a lot better than mine does (lol)[/quote]
NOT![b]
Greg I look at both sites every day and you cannot compare Apples with Oranges, I think BOTH sites serve their own purpose!! I love your posts and humor as much as the pictures.
KEEP Them Coming LYLE

[Sea Wolf]

Hey Greg- Glad to hear your revelation to debunk the myth of deep-v stability at rest! While the deep-v is a great water knife at cutting through chop at speed, the shape of the hull comes back to haunt them at rest, drifting, and while trolling. With an essentially flat bottomed boat like the C-Dory (in the rear sections), the flat, box like cross section floats level in the water, resisting the tendency to roll around in the chop and small waves. Big swells, of course, roll any boat. If two or three people move over to one side of the boat, the flat, squarish chined shape of the hull resists rolling, as rolling over would force more boat down into the water, which the bouyancy resists. The flat, square hull stays flat in the water and is relatively stable.

Not so with the deep-v. With the basically upside down triangular shaped underwater part of the hull in the water, it doesn't make any difference to the hull wether the v-sectoion is straight down or tilted to one side or the other. Only after the chines become considerably immersed does the difference in bouyancy begin to supply the forces to right the boat. Make a paper cross-section of the hulls of the two different types of boats, cut them out, draw a line representing the water's surface on a sheet of paper, and play with them visualizing what happens as the two hulls are acted upon by waves. You could also do this with three dimensional models built of blocks of wood in a sink. Same result: Flat bottom rocks a lot less that the deep-v at rest and slow speeds. End of talk by retired science teacher. Sorry for the lecture!!! Fun visiting with you! Joe.

[Redƒox]

Lyle, thnks kindly friend, for the pep-talk, it hard to tell what peep think at times, I must assume the best, you have taught me that. I to, still like some of the features better with the old MSN stuff.

Joe your sharp as usual, great example of the two hull styles! I'll add that them v-bottoms are mostly good more strait-on chop. They get "spanked" just like a flat bottom, when the waves are mixed and hit the hull on the sides.