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KevinDU



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:21 pm    Post subject: Backup kicker for C-Dory 22 with twin 50hp Yamaha Reply with quote

I own a C-Dory 22 with two (2) 50hp Yamahas, but I am thinking of installing a bracket for a 6hp Mercury kicker for the ultimate backup. Does anyone have such a set-up? Which bracket did you use and how, where did you mount it?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never heard of anyone doing that. I suppose you could if you could find the room. We have twin 40's and consider that we have a 40HP backup whenever we need it. From my perspective the potential for emergency use after both main engines failed would be extremely remote.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With our twin Honda 40's, I 2nd Barry's opinion, but if you saw the size of my new anchor you'd think maybe I'd be up for twin 6 hp back ups for the twin mains.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rigged a small electric motor to mount to our Twins transom on the old boat with a v-lock but that was only because we carried it for the dinghy anyway. I would not have bought one exclusively for that purpose. You already have a kicker buts its a 50. If you want or have a dingy motor that you will carry anyway, I would size it first for the dinghy then consider a method of possibly using it for the big boat if you really had a bad day. You could always side-tie the dingy to the dory and move it around that way in a pinch.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:44 pm    Post subject: Backup kicker for C-Dory 22 with twin 50hp Yamaha Reply with quote

Geez this is a new chapter in the single versus twins argument. What's a Mercury?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:49 pm    Post subject: Backup kicker for C-Dory 22 with twin 50hp Yamaha Reply with quote

Jay,
Does the front of your boat look like it had an accident in a scrap yard? We just switched to 50' of chain and 25 pound Manson Supreme. It's a real hood ornament.
D.D.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kevin, these boats were designed when light weight 2 strokes were the norm. Your boat is already stern heavy.
You want to install a full time problem to fix a problem that won't occur with basic maintenance and good primary fuel filters.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Backup kicker for C-Dory 22 with twin 50hp Yamaha Reply with quote

Will-C wrote:
Jay,
Does the front of your boat look like it had an accident in a scrap yard? We just switched to 50' of chain and 25 pound Manson Supreme. It's a real hood ornament.
D.D.

Dave, yes I think some may see the similarity. Our new 25 # Manson Boss may just make your Manson Supreme look rather petite. I'm still a little in shock at it's actual size & angles & even more that it fit & works well with present mounting without further adjustment. I wanted anchor overkill & I definitely got it now. The 25# Manson Supreme may have been the better choice of the two, but one think for sure, the Hunkydory is not going to move anymore in a strong wind when anchored in soft mud.

Jay
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting pretty heavy and crowded back there if you do it. Likely never need it. The thing about get home power is you need to run it regularly. There are many people who have kickers and never run them and are startled they dont' run when needed. Saw a guy in FH last year on a Bayliner with twins and twin kickers. Four obs across the back We saw a guy in port Alberni a couple years ago with triples and twin kickers! On a Boston Whaler They may be too scared to actually get out there. So it can be done. But why?
I have personally seen boats with singles and twins and triples come in on a tow line. Poor fuel will kill all 6 of your engines one a a time if you get a load of bad gas. Keep your fuel clean and batteries good and let your factory trained mechanic look after your power. 100 hour service intervals. Two will be enough I bet. I point Kerri On where we want to go and she has a pampered single. MY Yamaha mechanic is a trusted partner in my cruising and he knows it. Good luck. George
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Backup kicker for C-Dory 22 with twin 50hp Yamaha Reply with quote

Will-C wrote:
Geez this is a new chapter in the single versus twins argument. What's a Mercury?
D.D. : Mr. Green




Early space mission before Apollo !

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have twins and sure would not want to add more weight to the transom. I do carry a small kicker in the cockpit for the dink. In a pinch I would try what Greg suggested.

Martin.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, we have a 6 hp tohatsu beside twin 40 Suzukis. It rides on a garhauer 4 stroke kicker bracket.

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Yes, it will be heavier in the stern. It's not the prettiest mounting but it works for us. We mostly use the kicker on our portland pudgy. It depends on how you use your boat if it will work for you.

Happy boating,

Karl
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I'll leave it for now and rely on the twin 50s. I was just thinking what if I lose steering or I hit a log with both engines. I don't think I'll ever have a fuel problem because I have that taken care of. In any case, I wasn't thinking of actually mounting the kicker on the transom. I just want to have a bracket to attach it just in case. I would hate to ask for a tow when I'm 100-200 nm from Kitimat.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a very similar setup to Amy and Karl but have twin 45s and run a 3.5 tohatsu. I used primarily for slow trolling for king salmon and the dingy. I don't notice any difference with it on or off really, but the 3.5 is very light.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why in the world would you need a kicker with the possible exception of using it to power a dink. You have two of the most reliable engines on the planet.
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