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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4673 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
Photos: 'AU KAI
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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starcrafttom wrote: | Quote: | I'll F/U once I return |
forget explaining daisy chains I want to know what F/U was suppose to mean. figure out maybe? |
Cop code for "Follow-up".
It can also stand for a telling someone how much you appreciate them....  _________________ "We can go over there...behind the 'little one'....."
Wife to her husband pointing @ us...from the bow of their 50-footer; Prideaux Haven 2013 |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21356 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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There are two ways that receptacle can be wired. One is taking the hot (black) side from the GFI socket to the next and to the next etc. So they are all in common black--down the line from the GFI. Same for the white, or neutral, and green or ground.
Now if you took 3 triplex wires off one breaker. The first one to a GFI, and the next to a receptacle, without going thru the GFI, and the third the same, a separate set of wires from the breaker, then the second and third are not protected by the GFI.
In this case, the first are daisy chained, the second instance are not daisy chained, but both are in parallel.
Series is entirely different and normally not used in 110 AC or 12 DC in boats. It is more commonly used in speaker wiring--and there will be a difference in impedance in those in series and parallel.
In local Boy's instance, using a different breaker, from the common 110 volt bus, there will be no GFI protection on the microwave plug. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
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Home port: Pensacola FL |
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chucko
Joined: 12 Jul 2011 Posts: 168 City/Region: Davidson
State or Province: NC
C-Dory Year: 1997
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Angel
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Bob, specifically I was curious about your setup where you said you daisy chained the other outlets to the gfci outlet. I guess that would mean all black wires to a common screw terminal, all whites to a comm terminal etc, kind of a star formation outward to the 2 other outlets.Am I on track? |
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starcrafttom
Joined: 07 Nov 2003 Posts: 7932 City/Region: marysville
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1984
C-Dory Model: 27 Cruiser
Vessel Name: to be decided later
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21356 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Chucko, this is where it may gets confusing--and perhaps where the idea of "serial" came in. For the GFI to work down the line, there had to be a common connection with the GFI plug. That can be with one wire going to the next plug, and attaching another wire to the next, or it can be a set of triplex wire to each plug from the GFI plug--makes no difference--and since there are usually only two or three plugs in most C Dories, it can be done either way. However you don't want more than two ring terminals per screw--better only one. Each plug should have two screws on each side--the ground is where it can pile up--since there is usually only one ground screw on each receptacle. |
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