Bruce or Delta anchor

Wanderer · Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:37 pm Post subject:

Today I installed the 14 lb Delta on the Simpson Lawrence pivoting bow roller. The aft end rises enough when pivoting to cause the chain to approach the Sprint 400 at too steep an angle. It pivots all the time until pulled tight by the windlass.

I fear excessive wear or malfunction. I bought, but have not installed a roller type fairlead - AR-2. The fairlead would occupy the entire 6 inches between the end of the shank and the windlass. If it fits, it would lower the chain to a horizontal pull at the windlass.

Have any of you,who use the Simpson Lawrence pivoting bow roller, found this to be a problem?

TyBoo · Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject:

Tim on Lynn Marie had a similar problem, and solved it with a similar solution. I take it you are planning to install the fairlead between the back of the pivoting job and the windlass? Works great for Tim.

By the way, the problem of the chain rising too high above the gypsy would likely still occur with a fixed bow roller. The shank of the anchor would push the chain up just before it slammed down. You did good getting the pivot job.

Lynn Marie · Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:05 pm Post subject:

Amen brother. I did put the fairlead roller in right after the rope jumped out of the windlass the first time. I knew I didn't want to see the second time. What I installed was the "Windline" AR-4 which can be found in the West Marine catalog in their anchor roller section. It works great.

Tim

MOOSE · Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:42 pm Post subject:

Would anyone care to hazard an opinion as to whether a 14 lb. Delta will self-launch from a Windline BRM-2 anchor roller?
Al

True Story · Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject:

I think the answer to your question is yes Al but thats just what I have heard. I'll take a back seat to someone with first hand experience.

My question in regards to the BRM-2 roller is if a 13lb fluke style anchor will self launch or even fit this roller? I've gone down to West Marine several times over the past few months but they haven't had the roller in stock to try out for myself.

Tim

Alyssa Jean · Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:00 pm Post subject:

I think the BRM2 is what C-Dory puts on stock for the 22. I can tell you that a 16 lb bruce will NOT self launch. Had to change to a pivoting roller. However the BMR4 which is standard on the 25 is supposed to self launch with the Bruce.

MOOSE · Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:55 pm Post subject:

Ours is a 2001 and came with, I think, a Sea Dog anchor roller, not a Windline BRM-2. We currently have an 11 lb. Bruce that will not self-launch off the replacement BRM-2. If a 14 lb. Delta would, I'd gladly make the switch.
Al

Sneaks · Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:59 pm Post subject:

I don't know what model pivoting roller the factory put on my C-22, but it certainly self launches my Bruce clone nicely. I suspect it's the BRM-4, but there's no way for me to tell.

TyBoo · Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:17 pm Post subject:

Wanderer · Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:40 am Post subject:

Penny and I finished the installation of the 14# Delta with the Simpson Lawrence pivoting bow roller with the AR-4 for a fairlead.

Tyboo,

Thanks for the affirmation of this rig. It caused me to make the right decision at a time when I was still indecisive.

Tim,

I had purchased the AR-2 before your post. Then I checked out the AR-4. It was a better fit. Thanks for that detail.

SeaSpray · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:58 pm Post subject:

I just purchased the Simpson Lawrence pivoting bow roller for my cd22. I was surprised at how large it is. Now I have to decide how to mount it. I would like to not extend the anchor much further forward when stored so my boat cover will still fit.

Looking at it I assume you have to mount the lower plate so the forward edge is past the bow so the pivoting part does not hit the boat. Has anyone installed one further back and if so does it still work? It would seem that the forward bolt is very far forward - any problems with this?

Also does anyone use this setup with the pivoting part bolted in the rear position? I have the Bruce anchor (16lb?)

What is the best way to repair the factory roller holes since they will not work with the new roller?

It is great to be able to get info from those that have done the same thing with the same boat.

Thanks,
Steve

TyBoo · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:11 pm Post subject:

If I recall from my CD22, the lower section is almost to the point of the bow but it does not have to hang over. Set it up there and move it forward until the top section will pivot all the way down without hitting the glass, and then move it just a hair farther out.

You will probably end up using the back hole for the pivot bolt, giving the most extension off the bow, because when it is tipped down, the point of the anchor can touch the hull otherwise. You will only have to modify your boat cover once!

Instead of filling the existing holes, I think what I did was mount the thing with the holes provided in the new roller base, and then took a stubby pencil to mark the underside of the bracket up through the holes already in the boat. A couple extra bolts won't hurt a thing. Or, you can just fill those holes with a liberal amount of 3M 5200, letting it over fill a bit and onto the deck. Then when you bolt down the new roller, they will be sealed. You shouldn't be able to see them, anyway.

I know the thing looks big, but once it is on it will look like it belongs.

Sneaks · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:31 pm Post subject:

TyBoo · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:37 pm Post subject:

As you can see, Steve, Sneak's roller is mounted a bit further out than what I was saying, and it still looks great. I think the reason his is out so far is because he tows with a Ford, and this way if the hitch falls off, the anchor can catch the tailgate and maybe save the boat.

B~C · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:49 pm Post subject:

here's a big ugly version. If I recall I used the factory bow roller as a pattern and drilled out the pivoting roller to match the existing holes in the boat http://www.c-brats.com/modules.php?set_albumName=Blue~C&id=windlass&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php