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timflan



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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rebedded my foredeck hatch in 2007, and it hasn't leaked since. Here's my write-up:

http://www.navagear.com/2007/11/04/foredeck-hatch-rebedding/

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thataway wrote:
I do have to emphaisze that you want the cut out to be snug around the hatch bevel. If it is not, then fill the areas where it is not with glass tape and epoxy, epoxy with filler.


Re-reading this thread this morning, I see this and it's definitely a good point. I have not removed/replaced the forehatch, but when I took out my old lazarette hatches to put in new ones, some of the cut-out was really sloppy/wide as compared to the hatch flange. That left very little contact between the flange and the boat in those areas. Contrary to what one sometimes sees (caulk globbed up around the outside of a hatch/port/etc.), the caulk that is doing the job is that which is between the flange and the deck - so if you don't have much flange/deck interface, you don't have much sealant doing the job.

If I had just reinstalled my original lazarette hatches, I probably still would have added glass in a few places where they were "generous" with the cut-out (as it turned out the new hatches were slightly smaller, and so I added glass, but I just mean that even the original ones were a "barely" fit in some areas due to over-large cutouts).

Do you remember if you had any areas like this?

Sunbeam

PS: Since I have not removed my forehatch, I wasn't thinking about how it is fastened to the deck (and don't actually know even now). If it's just "sitting there," then I would not use butyl either. Butyl is a great, sticky, bedding compound that lasts seemingly forever while staying stretchy/sticky and thus does a great job keeping water out; but it is not a super-duper adhesive, so I wouldn't use it on anything where the sealant was doing the "fastening" to the boat.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The aluminum frame is screwed into the outer layer of the gel coat, and into the balsa--it is not into the inner layer of glass. This is a fairly thin layer of glass--I have not measured it, but maybe 1/8"... There should be no sealant visable around the outside of the hatch frame (masking tape allows good clean up). The most of the seal is back by the "L". of the frame. There the sealant is thicker.
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