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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 3:46 pm    Post subject: Value of an Autopilot Reply with quote

I don't have one, but it sure looks like the way to go. Doesn't it worry you that you turn your back to put the kettle on or take a wizz, then bang, you found the only log around for a 100 miles?

Martin.
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used one going around the entire coast of Florida and loved it. I don't plan on using it while going over 6kts.
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 4:30 pm    Post subject: Value of an Autopilot Reply with quote

If you are using a handheld remote for control of your autopilot, make sure you carry replacement batteries. It's a sad day Sad when your favorite boat toy does not function. In four years the batteries are the only thing that failed. We use it a lot. Every time we use the boat.
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 4:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Value of an Autopilot Reply with quote

bridma wrote:
I don't have one, but it sure looks like the way to go. Doesn't it worry you that you turn your back to put the kettle on or take a wizz, then bang, you found the only log around for a 100 miles?

Martin.


I've had two, one on a 22 and one on my first TC255. Both had wireless handheld controls. It's used primarily to maintain a course, it doesn't take the place of watching for things in the water. I wouldn't use it where things like that existed, over 6 knots if I had to leave the helm for over 25 seconds or so, first making sure my course was clear of obstructions. It's a great stress reliever in trying to maintain a course for a long period of time.

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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charlie, when there are things in the water is when you should use the autopilot. When we took Our Journey up to Alaska, using the autopilot allowed us to keep a good lookout for logs, seaweed, whales and most importantly fishing nets.

One corollary is that you have to slow down to where you can react if you see danger. Met a powerboat in Port Hardy getting the outdrive replaced because they were going too fast to see what was ahead. Saw them 2 weeks later, making up for lost time, going like stink. They didn't learn.

That's the great point about an autopilot. It steers the boat whilst you navigate and keep a lookout. It can even compensate for current. And, to a point it does that steering better than a human can, cause it's always on the job and it's mind doesn't wander.

On Journey On, when the swells get too large and the boat starts sliding around, that's when I have to hand steer.

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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In our years of cruising, especially along the Inside Passage and the Pacific NW, we saw the results of folks who did not heed your admonitions, Boris. Some set an autopilot, and went below to have breakfast. Others, set the auto to read a book.

Used properly, an autopilot is great -- it allows you to watch for sunken logs, and scan the radar or gps charts -- but if your mind wanders, or you use it to fix a drink or meal and your eyes are off the water, like you say, Boris, it is a DANGER. Use with discretion.

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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I and others have noted before, if you've ever had to maintain a course and a lookout in a dense fog, you will really understand the value of an autopilot.
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"That's the great point about an autopilot. It steers the boat whilst you navigate and keep a lookout. It can even compensate for current. And, to a point it does that steering better than a human can, cause it's always on the job and it's mind doesn't wander. "

Yes, properly integrated with a chart plotter, it can steer a route, notifying you of waypoints and programmed turns, asking permission to make them when the time comes, all the time making corrections for currents and wind effects, especially important at hull speed!

I didn't mean not to use it when some stuff is in the water but, if your course is filled with a lot of obstructions, etc., you should have the helm in your hands, not constantly overriding the AP.

Charlie
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And, Bill, hopefully slow speed and a good radar and marine radio
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

El and Bill wrote:
And, Bill, hopefully slow speed and a good radar and marine radio


Absolutely! And the window open and ears alert!

There are more than enough things to watch for and pay attention to in the fog or dark without having to try to follow a line on your GPS or maintain a compass heading at the same time. Just as an experiment, everyone should try to maintain a heading manually at about 5 knots with a little wind and a little cross current. Then imagine doing it in the dark or in the fog when you have no visual frame of reference out the window. If you can stay on course without significant steering correction, over-correction, and over-over-correction (and miss that log in the water) you're a better man than I!

Having a crew adds extra eyes and ears and can be a big plus. I have been the guy on the foredeck with the flashlight on a boat trying to find a harbor entrance (Blaine, no less) in the dark. It was a sailboat. The auxiliary engine had died in the Straits of Georgia. It was 40 years ago. No GPS, of course. We were young and stupid. but we made it without damage or injury. But that's another story ... I've wandered a bit. Guess I forgot to turn the auto pilot on. Laughing
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