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Bill K



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:55 am    Post subject: Window track drain guard's Reply with quote

All of my window track guard's are deteriorating.

I have looked in a marine catalog and used a search engine with out finding any.

These are on a 1989 22' cruiser

Does anybody know where I can purchase these ?

Before you ask, no I do not have a picture. Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you talking about the fuzzy wuzzies that line the window tracks?
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Bill K



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, these go over the drain hole on the outside of the frame.
They sort of look like a dryer vent that is outside your house.


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Are you talking about the fuzzy wuzzies that line the window tracks?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My boat is a 2007, so I apparently don't have anything that looks quite like that. But, good luck and I hope you can find a replacement. I've found that for most of my internet pix of projects, both car and boat that if I take the pix with my camera phone, then e-mail it to my e-mail account, getting it on to c-brats becomes pretty easy. But, if you problem is not being near your boat today, then you'd have to have a really special camera phone to do the job!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, now I see. I went back and looked at my pix of my boat and you must be talking about the 4 little rectangular pieces along the bottom of the long window frames. I've never taken a close look at those. I guess I'd better. I'll bet the factory will be able to give you their source or supply those for you. I assume their 2013 boats are set up the same.
Your said that they were deteriorating. Are they plastic? My boat is still out in the storage facility.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In reading your post I looked up above at my last post and my goodness is TyBoo quick. LOL I don't think that it was 30 min. ago that I asked for an album and I now have one.

Thanks TyBoo Smile

The boat is right outside my back door, I will take a picture and see if I can get it in my album.



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My boat is a 2007, so I apparently don't have anything that looks quite like that. But, good luck and I hope you can find a replacement. I've found that for most of my internet pix of projects, both car and boat that if I take the pix with my camera phone, then e-mail it to my e-mail account, getting it on to c-brats becomes pretty easy. But, if you problem is not being near your boat today, then you'd have to have a really special camera phone to do the job!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a picture of one of my drain guards for my side windows.

I guess not. LOL

It is the only one in my album.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those plastic guards are quite easy to fabricate out of light guage aluminum or stainless sheet. The rivets can be drilled out and the newly made guards pop-riveted back on. Ron
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Window track drain guard's Reply with quote

Bill K wrote:
All of my window track guard's are deteriorating.

I have looked in a marine catalog and used a search engine with out finding any.

These are on a 1989 22' cruiser


I think on the '89 you have the older-style, silver windows, right? IIUC, those have a completely different outer seal type. Now, I don't know if the track guards are or aren't different to the newer windows, but it stands to reason they might be (hence, many people here would have different ones). I think the white windows started in the early 1990's, btw.

Maybe you have seen these threads, but if not, they might be a handy reference for siilver-window related info (not specifically on the guards though).

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=11820

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=1733
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Window track drain guard's Reply with quote

Thanks Sunbeam,
I will look at those threads.

I have the same style of guards on my big boat, but they are made out of aluminum and a little bigger.

These are plastic.

I must be calling them the wrong name. Smile



Sunbeam wrote:
Bill K wrote:
All of my window track guard's are deteriorating.

I have looked in a marine catalog and used a search engine with out finding any.

These are on a 1989 22' cruiser


I think on the '89 you have the older-style, silver windows, right? IIUC, those have a completely different outer seal type. Now, I don't know if the track guards are or aren't different to the newer windows, but it stands to reason they might be (hence, many people here would have different ones). I think the white windows started in the early 1990's, btw.

Maybe you have seen these threads, but if not, they might be a handy reference for siilver-window related info (not specifically on the guards though).

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=11820

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=1733
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Window track drain guard's Reply with quote

Yes I have the older silver aluminum window frames.

I missed that question the first time or just didn't answer it. LOL



Sunbeam wrote:
Bill K wrote:
All of my window track guard's are deteriorating.

I have looked in a marine catalog and used a search engine with out finding any.

These are on a 1989 22' cruiser


I think on the '89 you have the older-style, silver windows, right? IIUC, those have a completely different outer seal type. Now, I don't know if the track guards are or aren't different to the newer windows, but it stands to reason they might be (hence, many people here would have different ones). I think the white windows started in the early 1990's, btw.

Maybe you have seen these threads, but if not, they might be a handy reference for siilver-window related info (not specifically on the guards though).

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=11820

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=1733
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whatever it is, it's mad as hell.....
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, so here's the photo:



So what the "guard" for?

To keep insects out? (The type that plug up the "tell-tale" or "pee hole" in outboard motors)? Where's the bug gonna go, anyway? No real cavity in there, is there? (Never been a problem.)

I don't have them (and never did) on my '87.

Yes, you could make new ones yourself and install them, if desired.

I suggest you call/email the window manufacturer (Diamond Sea Glaze) and ask them about them, their purpose, why discontinued, whether still available, etc.

Let us know what you find out.

***On Edit: The photo shows a guard made out of something other than aluminum/aluminum alloy or stainless. Note corrosion. Betcha they were not made or installed by Diamond Sea Glaze, or any other window manufacturer. They would not have used an easily corrodible metal. Probably a home-made addition by a previous owner! Any clues about them?

See ma, no guards, just elongated drain holes!


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just as a note, if you make your own or decide to buy (different) ones: I just looked out at my window guards (white windows), and, while they are the same basic size, there is a "bulged" section in the middle. It's kind of like there is a clamshell built into the center section (closed end on top, open end on bottom). Maybe that helps to prevent the corrosion where it is on yours, because the water/gunk doesn't "press" on the guard there. Seems like it might be a worthwhile improvement (?)

I'll come back with a photo.

Edited to add: Okay, sorry these are blurry, but if I went to re-take them I think I'd run past the editing time limit. They should give the idea anyway.





Here is how I get a photo from my album to a post:

1) I open up my album in another tab or window (just seems easier).

2) Get to the photo I want, and click on it once or twice to make it as large as possible.

3) Right click on enlarged photo and...

a) Mac = select "Copy Image Address"
b) Windows = I think select "Properties" and then within that there is something referring to copying the URL or address, select that.

4) Come back to the posting window on the thread you want the image in and paste what you copied in step three into it.

5) Highlight the address from step 4 and go up above the posting window and click on "Img."

6) Watch for the final Img tag getting separated from main string - you may have to manually delete to get them rejoined (I do).

7) Preview post. If photo comes out right, you are good to go; if it does not, it won't and you need to check on the tags (most likely they are the problem) (you can also manually type the tags in once you see what they are).

Voilá!

Sunbeam


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please note my On Edit comment above"

"***On Edit: The photo shows a guard made out of something other than aluminum/aluminum alloy or stainless. Note corrosion. Betcha they were not made or installed by Diamond Sea Glaze, or any other window manufacturer. They would not have used an easily corrodible metal. (Looks to be ferrous). Ditto on the pop rivets. Probably a home-made addition by a previous owner! Any clues about them?"
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