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starcrafttom
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I don't think that the benefit of two motors is to off set the reliability of modern motors. Today's motors are just to good. I think the benefit of twin motors is to off set the mistakes of captains running over stuff. In which case a single with a kicker is by far the better option.. yes I am bored and decide to chum today.
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Chester
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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No matter, twins look cooler and more important!  |
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C-Nile
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| starcrafttom wrote: | | I don't think that the benefit of two motors is to off set the reliability of modern motors. Today's motors are just to good. I think the benefit of twin motors is to off set the mistakes of captains running over stuff. In which case a single with a kicker is by far the better option.. yes I am bored and decide to chum today. |
I agree with you Tom about the kicker, but as for today's motor's being "just too good" -- that's up for debate. Motors used to have simple carburetors, gasoline used to be gasoline (not ethanol added), and they had simple points -- everything was simple. Today's engines are highly complex and refined, and one could argue that a lot can go wrong. Perhaps they are too complex. My brother-in-law, for example, had a diesel inboard/outboard in his late model 26' boat that blew the computer three times when he tried to go from forward to reverse. Each computer cost $2,000. I was with him on one of those occasions when the engine just stopped in the middle of a channel. He got stranded two times. It's not like the old days with direct linkages of the transmission -- it's sensors everywhere: sensors to detect when the throttle is in reverse, forward or neutral, but when a sensor or a computer fails, you're up the creek without a panel. The manufacturer wouldn't do anything about it. He would have given anything for a good old fashioned direct linkage of the throttle to the transmission! I had 5 failures on the water due to an intermittent, failing wiring harness in my old boat. In another case, my engine in the old boat stalled in the middle of the river, because a black, nylon dock line in the water had wrapped around the prop. So many things can go wrong that it makes sense to have one engine free and clear of the water, and with a separate fuel supply.
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Captains Cat
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Okay here's a new singles versus twins discussion... Had a need to remove the old osprey nest (Eagles and Canadian Geese broke it own)from the pole about 10 feet above the water and replace it with a nest about 6 feet above the water. Backed the boat up with the Twins , dropped the anchor, nestled the pole between the twins, cut it off of with an electric chainsaw. Would've been a lot more difficult with the single-engine. But not impossible.
Installed the prebuilt nest, the Male osprey arrived yesterday, he was a day early. He was very anxious and was carrying sticks all around us to start a new nest!
Will post pictures tomorrow. 
Charlie
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colobear
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See!! Twins are better!!
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potter water
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Running on Lake Powell this year with the predicted low water, one of, "still crazy's." twin Suzies will be up enough to make sure that only one takes a hit if some log or whale rears it's head. It is nice to know that I'll still have a 50 hp to get me home rather than 15 or less. At Powell, altitude and density altitudes, a 15 hp kicker will be down by 30% or so in hp. But, I agree with the often posted, "twins just look cooler," as the very best reason to have twins.
Oh, and don't forget my own personal favorite: Would you want to get on a commercial jet that had a big engine on one wing and a little bitty one on the other? 
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Chester
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| It's not just that twins look cooler, which they do, they look more important as well. |
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hardee
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Oh Great ..... It's back 
And what single and kicker can go from the entrance of the marina to the slip or launch ramp and never touch the steering wheel    
As a couple of friends of mine used to say, "Twins are twice the fun" 
BTW, nice job Charlie
Harvey
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starcrafttom
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| you know what they way in the south. "if your going to be impotent you should dress impotent. |
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