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Saralin
Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 9 City/Region: Punta Gorda, FL
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Saralin
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:52 am Post subject: New Power for 2002 22' Cruiser |
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I'm re-powering the Saralin. My former outboard was a 2002 F80 Yamaha. Its life ended at 850 hours, which disappoints me a bit, but I'm still sticking with Yamaha. I'm trying to decide between the Yamaha 4-stroke 90 or 115. In my situation, the price is almost identical. The weight differnce is minimal. I realize I don't need the extra hp - usually, because I have some really fat friends! At the same rpm, the fuel economy differences will also be minimal. Any thoughts or inputs on why I wouldn't select the 115 hp?
Thank you for your inputs -
John (Saralin) |
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Rob & Karen
Joined: 24 Nov 2006 Posts: 353 City/Region: Franklin
State or Province: TN
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Life of Riley
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:01 am Post subject: |
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With the weight and cost the same, there is no doubt I would take the 115.
Rob |
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starcrafttom
Joined: 07 Nov 2003 Posts: 7932 City/Region: marysville
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1984
C-Dory Model: 27 Cruiser
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:50 am Post subject: |
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HP is like a gun or a tool or a lure, you might never need it but when you do need it you cant go back to the dock to get it. if the weight cost fuel is the same , or close enought not to matter, then get the 115.
I am also wandering why your f80 only lasted 800 hours?? thats nothing for a 4 stroke or even a well cared for two stroke. I got over a 1000 hours on my honda 90 in four years. hell I had a 76? 25 evenrude with 500 hours in two years and it ran great. I have no idea what hour the old owner had on it. I bought it in 96 and ran the hell out of it every weekend. It was running when i sold it. _________________ Thomas J Elliott
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patrick and linda
Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 953 City/Region: somerset
State or Province: KY
C-Dory Year: 1986
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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i've had yamaha and honda engines. i personally would stick with honda's. have you given any thought for twin engines? i had twins on my c-dory and really liked the control as well as added insurance that if one engine failed i had a second to get home on.
pat |
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 7313 City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
State or Province: VA
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C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Captain's Choice II
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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patrick and linda wrote: | i've had yamaha and honda engines. i personally would stick with honda's. have you given any thought for twin engines? i had twins on my c-dory and really liked the control as well as added insurance that if one engine failed i had a second to get home on.
pat |
Oh no....here we go again!!
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jennykatz
Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Posts: 1679 City/Region: naples
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:51 pm Post subject: 90 vs 115hp |
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The f-115 is a proven 1.7 litre eng whereas the 90 is a 1.6engine not much difference for almost the same price within $500 I would chose the f-115 hands down .You will be able to put a biggerpitch prop maybe a 17in pitch vs a 15in pitch .So fuel economy would probably be the same .Resale would definatly be better .Usually no one wants to go down in hp . _________________ retired 8/08 from UAL, still working pt tm
Duck c-22 cruiser sold 6/23/08
06 Venture Cruiser with merc115CT
00 cd16 cruiser honda 40 sold 3/12 |
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A Fishin C Guest
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Yamaha 115 - 412 pounds
yamaha 90 - 369 pounds
Kicker if you have one - 100 pounds
Two Batteries - 100 pounds
50 gallons of fuel - ?? pounds
C-Dory recommendation for max engine/battery weight is 500 pounds
2 batteries 100 lbs
I say keep the stern as light as possible for best performance and economy. |
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centerisland
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 336 City/Region: Mercer Island
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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starcrafttom wrote: | I am also wandering why your f80 only lasted 800 hours?? thats nothing for a 4 stroke or even a well cared for two stroke. |
I second that - what the heck happened? _________________ 36' Little Harbor Whisperjet - Lulu
44' Custom F/C Trawler - Refugio - SOLD
CD22 - Curlew (ex-SeaDNA) - SOLD by Les! |
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ghone
Joined: 13 Aug 2008 Posts: 1429 City/Region: Nanaimo
State or Province: BC
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C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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I'm running a F90 Yamaha and only have 12 hours on it but in the wot scenario it will run at 26 mph with a full cruising load full fuel and waer and groceries on board in flat water. Way too fast to cruise at for long. Gotta pay a lot of attention at that speed. Much nicer at 15 power isn't the issue, the 22 is rated to 100 and it's lots.
George |
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Matt Gurnsey Dealer
Joined: 11 Nov 2008 Posts: 1532 City/Region: Port Orchard
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Unless something has changed, the newer 22's are rated at 115. _________________ Matt Gurnsey
Kitsap Marina
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21385 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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I have owned several of the Yamaha 115 4 strokes--one of the best engines made. The reason to choose Yamaha is two fold--one he has the boat already rigged for Yamaha. Second is that in salt water the Yamaha has less corrosion problems than the Honda's. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12637 City/Region: Sequim
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:29 am Post subject: |
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thataway wrote: | I have owned several of the Yamaha 115 4 strokes--one of the best engines made. The reason to choose Yamaha is two fold--one he has the boat already rigged for Yamaha. Second is that in salt water the Yamaha has less corrosion problems than the Honda's. |
And the service-ability for Yamaha is much better. Better access, more places, and easier parts availability.
AND, I'm not saying anything about the Twins idea but......
There are reasons........
Harvey
SleepyC  _________________ Though in our sleep we are not conscious of our activity or surroundings, we should not, in our wakefulness, be unconscious of our sleep. |
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Doryman
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 3807 City/Region: Anacortes
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Also consider the new Yamaha 70. Red Fox is running one up in Alaska and really likes it because the lighter weight balances the boat better and compensates to some degree for the lower HP rating. I would get one if I were going to repower today.
Warren _________________ Doryman
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rogerbum
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 5927 City/Region: Kenmore
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Doryman wrote: | Also consider the new Yamaha 70. Red Fox is running one up in Alaska and really likes it because the lighter weight balances the boat better and compensates to some degree for the lower HP rating. I would get one if I were going to repower today.
Warren |
Of course Greg is the same guy who used to talk about how extra weight on the stern was great and who used to run 115 and talk about the benefits of those extra horses. _________________ Roger on Meant to be |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1808 City/Region: Wasilla
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:13 am Post subject: |
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rogerbum wrote: | Doryman wrote: | Also consider the new Yamaha 70. Red Fox is running one up in Alaska and really likes it because the lighter weight balances the boat better and compensates to some degree for the lower HP rating. I would get one if I were going to repower today.
Warren |
Of course Greg is the same guy who used to talk about how extra weight on the stern was great and who used to run 115 and talk about the benefits of those extra horses. |
He did say that didn't he.....He should run for a political office with John Kerry at his side.....  |
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