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Alyssa Jean
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2376 City/Region: Guemes Is.(Anacortes)
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: Alyssa Jean
Photos: Anna Leigh and Alyssa Jean
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:06 pm Post subject: Another Webasto furnace install |
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I had been thinking I wanted a better heating system for about a year or so. I do not cook on the Wallas that came with the boat and alsthough the unit works just fine, it is trying to do two jobs while mounted on the counter top.
So. Last week I removed the Wallas, filled in the hole, removed the sink and cheap faucet and applied a nice laminate over the existing surface. Reinstalled the sink and a new single lever, removable hand held faucet fixture.
Today I ordered the Webasto AT2000ST from Interstate Power Systems, plus a new thru hull, mounting bracket and some exhaust hose insulation from Sure Marine. Then I went out and removed the refer, and floor from under the sink (floor was an add on when we had the boat built--see my album).
Kate wants a hot air duct in the V berth. So I will do that. Anything to enhance her going out on the boat is a plus, no matter what the effort.
I have made 60mm cut outs thru both walls of the refer encloser to make the run forward under the throttle shelf. I also cut out a little half moon in the fiberglass bulkhead under the throttle shelf to pass the 2 3/8" hot air duct into the V berth. I plan on running it forward under the starboard shelf to the front of the V berth and put in a closeable vent opening there. The other duct will go at floor level just forward of the forward head bulkhead. Facing the sink it would be to the right of your right foot. I thought about running it under the head and into the compartment under the cabin step, but I don't see much advantage to doing that.
I will take some pictures tomorrow of where I am so far and then some more as I install the heater. I am planning on mounting it under the sink counter on the bulkhead. Use an appropriately sized piece of plywood 5200ed to the bulkhead for a mounting surface and braced upto the underside of the counter top if needed. I will use the existing thru hull hole that the Wallas used, but will have to enlarge it a little I think. Took that thru hull out today. The existing 15 Amp wiring will power the Webasto. The intake air for the combustion will come thru the 22mm intake hose that I will run through the same place all the wiring is under the starboard gunnel and into the storage shelf in the cockpit.
All in all. Anyday you are mucking about in a boat (whether on land or sea) is a good day.
More to come. _________________ David and Kate
Alyssa Jean 16 Angler
Anna Leigh 22 Cruiser Sold 2005
Anna Leigh 25 Cruiser Sold 2014
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416rigby
Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 1208 City/Region: Port Angeles
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2001
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Foggy Dew
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Great! Looking forward to those pics. You folks doing this are paving the way for the rest of us, so anything you learn will be applied. I'm hoping to do it sometime this summer. _________________ "Life's too short to hunt with an ugly gun"
At last...home for good in the Great Northwest!
2001 22 Cruiser "Foggy Dew" 2006-2013 |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:08 am Post subject: |
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David-
Sounds well thought out!
I know you'd do a fine and crafty journeyman's job on the installation!
Looking forward to the photos!
Looks like we have a Webasto & Espar Revolution underway!
Joe.  _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
 
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8558 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure David will do a fine job. And save a bucket load of money compared to what I paid to Triton Marine to do the install on Daydream. On the other hand, I have neither the spare time nor the technical skills to do a craftsman-like job on a heater install, so we probably each made the right choice to get to our end result! _________________
DAYDREAM - CD25 Cruiser
CRABBY LOU - CD16 Angler (sold 2020)
Pat & Patty Anderson, C-Brat #62!
http://daydreamsloop.blogspot.com
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Adeline
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 985 City/Region: Vancouver
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1989
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Adeline
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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These are exciting projects.
IMO, nothing adds more to these little cabin boats then dry, DEPENDABLE heat.
Electronics, downriggers, you name it,
if you're damp and shivering all those goodies don't seem very important.
In all my Adeline years(since the Wallas) I've NEVER had to wear any coat to stay warm inside the "house".
That includes winter trips when it's snowing and the docks are icy. Just a sweatshirt.
That would never have worked in my B.W. Montauk. BRRRRRR  _________________ Pete
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Alyssa Jean
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2376 City/Region: Guemes Is.(Anacortes)
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: Alyssa Jean
Photos: Anna Leigh and Alyssa Jean
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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I ordered the thru hull, a mounting bracket and some exhaust insulation on Monday from Sure Marine. When we got home this afternoon the Sure Marine parts were at my doorstep. 24 hours. I live on an island. 24 hours. WOW.
Waiting for the heater. It is coming from Iowa, so probably won't be here until tomorrow.
The beat goes on. |
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Alyssa Jean
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2376 City/Region: Guemes Is.(Anacortes)
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: Alyssa Jean
Photos: Anna Leigh and Alyssa Jean
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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HERE is a picture of the new laminate counter top. I also raised the back counter rack and laminated the floor of that.
Nothing much to take pictures of yet. I did install the thru hull today. Waiting now for the heater to arrive. |
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Doryman
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 3807 City/Region: Anacortes
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Lori Ann
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Anna Leigh wrote: | HERE is a picture of the new laminate counter top. I also raised the back counter rack and laminated the floor of that. |
David, if those are the original factory teak trim pieces, I am curious what you had to do to remove and reinstall them. How are they attached, and how did you reattach?
Thanks,
Warren _________________ Doryman
M/V Lori Ann
TomCat 255, Hull #55, 150 Yamahas
Anacortes, WA
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Alyssa Jean
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2376 City/Region: Guemes Is.(Anacortes)
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: Alyssa Jean
Photos: Anna Leigh and Alyssa Jean
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:38 am Post subject: |
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They are the original pieces and I did not remove them. I cut the new laminate to fit and VERY carefully put it in place with contact cement. Pat actually removed his when he did it. |
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jlsparks
Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 52 City/Region: Baldwin WI.
State or Province: WI
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C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Dutch Treat
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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A few years ago I installed this heater in my 22 for the same reason. I wanted heat in the v berth. Since then I have been very happy with it. On fishing trips to Lake Mich. in March, temps in the 30's this heater will keep the inside at 70 without even running it at Max output. Heat in the V-berth also can dry things out if it condensates up there. One thing I have found is it does not like low voltage. I have only two batterys to run everything so if the heater battery is low and faults out I just plug in the charger to that battery and the heater will then run just fine. Great choice and your wife will love it. I fish the Mississippi in the winter and to come in and warm up in the cabin and 70 when it's 30 outside is great.
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Alyssa Jean
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2376 City/Region: Guemes Is.(Anacortes)
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: Alyssa Jean
Photos: Anna Leigh and Alyssa Jean
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, the Webasto is installed, I have it home and it works great. I have taken pictures of the unit under the galley, the ducting into the V berth and a couple of others.
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TyBoo
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 5329 City/Region: Warrenton
State or Province: OR
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:02 am Post subject: |
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It looks real good, David. Very nice. _________________ TyBoo Mike
Sold: 1996 25' Cruise Ship
Sold: 1987 22' Cruiser |
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Walldog
Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Posts: 334 City/Region: Port Isabel
State or Province: TX
C-Dory Year: 2014
C-Dory Model: R-27 Tug
Vessel Name: Willie's Tug
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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HI David,
Does the Webasto have a pump to get fuel from the tank to the heater? I notice that your fuel tank is below the unit.
Thanks Herb _________________ Walldog aka Herb Stark
2014 R31 Tug "Willie's Tug"
Port Isabel TX/Ballard WA
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Alyssa Jean
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2376 City/Region: Guemes Is.(Anacortes)
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: Alyssa Jean
Photos: Anna Leigh and Alyssa Jean
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, there is a small 12V pulse pump inline to the fuel line. |
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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4673 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I am curious what you had to do to remove and reinstall them. How are they attached, and how did you reattach? |
I removed the small teak trim piece/fiddle from our over-head shelf. I tried to take it off in one piece to save the teak. No luck. It was held on w/ small brads (no problem) but the factory also used a white adhesive, probably 5200, and THAT is what created the issue. The piece cracked along the grain about 1/3 way across. I don't know if the galley fiddles are attached the same way, but I'd assume so and go from there.
To remove them I will pull the entire top. Punch out the small brads completely. Cut back the plywwod top as close as possible to the teak. THen router out the remnants of the plywood top to match the dado in the teak. But doing it like this means you have to make a new plywood top.
To reattach I'd use brads and some wood glue. _________________ "We can go over there...behind the 'little one'....."
Wife to her husband pointing @ us...from the bow of their 50-footer; Prideaux Haven 2013 |
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