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rrusso421
Joined: 23 Aug 2010 Posts: 3 City/Region: Randolph
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:16 am Post subject: 90 HP Yamaha |
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Looking for feed back on late model Yamaha 90 HP 4 stroke. I would like to know minimum idle speed, smoothness at idle and slow trolling speeds and noise level at cruising speeds? |
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 7313 City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Captain's Choice II
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Not sure about the particulars on the Yami but most of the 4 Stroke EFIs idle at about 600rpm. Very quiet. Hard to tell it's running. With one engine going, I sometimes try to restart it (can't tell which one is running).
As for minimum trolling speed, would depend on the boat you've got it on, trim tabs, etc, etc. My twin 115 Suzis are pretty quiet, even at WOT. We usually close the cabin door because of the wind. We troll with one when I fish (rarely...). about 2knots.
Charlie _________________ CHARLIE and PENNY CBRAT #100
Captain's Cat II 2005 22 Cruiser
Thataway (2006 TC255 - Sold Aug 2013)
Captain's Cat (2006 TC255 - Sold January 2012)
Captain's Kitten (1995 CD 16 Angler- Sold June 2010)
Captain's Choice (1994 CD 22 Cruiser- Sold Jun 2007)
Potomac River/Chesapeake Bay
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
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C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:45 am Post subject: Re: 90 HP Yamaha |
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rrusso421 wrote: | Looking for feed back on late model Yamaha 90 HP 4 stroke. I would like to know minimum idle speed, smoothness at idle and slow trolling speeds and noise level at cruising speeds? |
I have the first of the EFI 90 Yamahas (2005), and I'm very satisfied with it.
It's so quiet, we once hauled the boat out on the trailer without turning it off because we couldn't hear it idling with the typical ramp commotion!
It starts instantly, even after months of non-use, and runs very smooth and quiet at all speeds.
I've had it for 6 years now (since mid 2004 when the 2005's came out), and haven't had any problem except for a trim sensor indicator toggle that had to be replaced, which I did myself for under $10.
To be fair, most all of the new motors are of similar high quality, and I think the new EFI Honda 90 is a bit stronger than the Yamaha, and probably stronger than the Suzuki 90 as well.
It's a very good horse, if you need one.
Joe.  _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
 
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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rrusso421
Joined: 23 Aug 2010 Posts: 3 City/Region: Randolph
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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I agree, the Honda 90 is probably stronger, I have seen results stating that it puts out about 96 HP. But I have heard that it shakes at idle, and it does not have the electronic trolling speed option like the Yamaha. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Mine trolls as slow as I need. Can go less than 2 mph. It is not quiet at plane unless you close the door. Mine is an 07. |
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Matt Gurnsey Dealer
Joined: 11 Nov 2008 Posts: 1532 City/Region: Port Orchard
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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I've run the Suzuki, Yamaha and Hondas, and the Honda is the leats smooth of the bunch. I was really surprised, becaue Honda prides themselves on how smooth their engines are.
This was on a used 22 Cruiser, and it was the fuel injected Honda. For my money, the Yamaha is superior. _________________ Matt Gurnsey
Kitsap Marina
www.kitsapmarina.com
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rrusso421
Joined: 23 Aug 2010 Posts: 3 City/Region: Randolph
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, I've had similar experience with Suzuki and Honda myself. The smoothest motors I have ever owned were a 2003 Yamaha 25 HP 4 stroke and a 1983 Mecury 50HP 4 cylinder 2 stroke, which I still own and use on a 17' Seanymph. |
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BrentB
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c-ness
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know about the 90s but I currently have two boats. One runs a 40 Honda and the other a 50 Yamaha. I prefer the Yamaha. It idles much better and is quiter. Both are great motors, just a bit of an edge in my opinion to the Yamaha. |
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BrentB
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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I have no affiliation with SIM Yamaha, just a satisfied customer |
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Wefings Dealer
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2086 City/Region: Panhandle
State or Province: FL
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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I just sold my 90EFI Honda on my 22 CC C Dory , I liked that motor alot ,but all the aforementioned motors are good [even the venerable carb 90 Honda which I have on a rental boat and has been a workhorse if you know how to add stabilizer and run it alot ] The Suzuki 90 wins hands down for power to weight ratio and most modern design ,That can make a difference on some boats ,not all , but its the pinnacle in that department right now .
Now if you ask me me about 4 stroke 70s right now, I might put the new Yamaha first
. 60 HP has a plethora of good choices.
Ill take one of each .
Marc _________________ Wefings Marine Website
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Tortuga
Joined: 01 Apr 2008 Posts: 320 City/Region: Ventura
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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I bought a 2008 Yamaha 90 EFI in November 08 and I've been delighted. It always starts immediately regardless of how long it has sat, runs flawlessly with great torque across the rpm range.
Idle speed about 500-600 if I recall -- and smooth idle. In flat water it'll run at 29 mph at 5000 all day long. That was my experience today coming across to Avalon (Catalina). On a typical choppy day it'll run smoothly at 4000 pushing about 18-20.
I can't compare to the other brands, but I am very happy with this engine. _________________ Tortuga
Ventura, CA |
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Byrdman
Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 3329 City/Region: Cumberland River, Clarksville,
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:07 am Post subject: |
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So many motors......so few boats in the garage to try them on.
Aint life grand in the 4 stroke world!!
Byrdman _________________ Patrick Byrd "Byrdman"
Cumberland River TN home waters Puget Sound Summers.
Miss B - CD22A, Aug 2018
C-Byrd, CD18A, Hull #14 sold again.. May 2020
C-Byrd, CD18A, Hu #14 - Bought her again - May16
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Sneaks
Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 2020 City/Region: San Diego (Encinitas)
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:49 am Post subject: |
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The Jenny B has a 75 Yamaha EFI which is a clone of the 90 detuned for slightly more bottom end torque. Loved it. 3800 rpm was the "sweet spot" for best mileage and WOT gave it 29-30 mph depending upon the gods that day.
I'm now shopping to re-power the Honky Dory and will definitely go Yamaha again. Leave the boat alone for a month - no problem. Fires up quickly and no "varnished carb" syndrome either. One unpublished feature of the 75/90: Hot showers. If you hook a hose with a shower head onto the engine flush connection (easily accessed from inside the boat) then start the engine you can use it as a hot water body rinse. Not as fun in salt water but great in a lake!
Don _________________ Mary & Don Anderson
Brat #483
"Jenny B" 2005 C-22/F75 sold, Oct. 2008
"C-Brat" 1993 C-16 angler/50 hp |
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