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Boont Boater
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 Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: Honda 20 won't piddle |
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My Honda 20 hp kicker doesn't piddle out the top anymore. Does that mean the water pump is broke or could it just be a small kidney stone? The boat is in the water and I wasn't planning on pulling it out for a couple of months. I can flush it out from the top and water seems to flow freely from several places down below.
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matt_unique
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: Pump |
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Possibly a bad impeller pump. You need to pull the lower unit off and replace it to prevent burning out your engine.
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Whenever mine gets a "prostrate problem" my first choice is to shoot some compressed air into the hole. ( I carry a can on board) This might work reversing a piddle to a stream.
If only canned air only worked on men over 60 
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Sea Wolf
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Science lesson:
Insects, usually wasps, often plug that pee hole with another insect that has been stung and an egg buried in it.
This is the way the wasp reproduces.
The egg hatches and lives off the stung insect as a larva, then metamorphoses into and adult and flies off.
In the meantime, your motor doesn't piddle.
Use compressed air or a flexible wire to clean it out.
Happens all the time!
Joe.  
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Sea Wolf wrote: | Science lesson:
Insects, usually wasps, often plug that pee hole with another insect that has been stung and an egg buried in it.
This is the way the wasp reproduces.
The egg hatches and lives off the stung insect as a larva, then metamorphoses into and adult and flies off.
In the meantime, your motor doesn't piddle.
Use compressed air or a flexible wire to clean it out.
Happens all the time!
Joe. |
Agree with Joe. Mud wasps have 'camped' in my outboard's telltale hole - thus plugging it up. In FL we are mandated by the Fishcops to have a 'venting' devise if you fish the reefs (basically a large bore needle to release pressure in the fish's swim bladder). Anyway, the venting devise works well for clearing the obstruction left by the pesky insects. My wife has suggested leaving a pipe cleaner in the hole while we're away but I've not tried that yet...do they make stainless steel pipe cleaners?
I've never used compressed air...don't ever seem to have it right there when needed. But I'd be concerned about blasting the debris further into the engine than is healthy...better to simply loosen it and let the 'pee' stream flush it out naturally. But then, I'm no mechanic...maybe it's not possible to blast crud waaaay far into the cooling system.
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akroyd
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| On my flats skiff this telltale blockage is not unusual especially when the grass is thick. I keep a piece of weed eater nylon long enough to reach the motor hanging permanently from the poling tower of the skiff. The nylon is stiff enough to clear most obstructions yet not so sharp or stiff to do damage to anything it can reach. If you are not boating for a while just put the end in the telltale and it will discourage any insect or dirt intrusion. Always there when you need it. |
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Trimmer wire from your weedwhacker works great. It is flexible enough to advance in a ways. The one time when absolutely nothing worked (there was a small volume of water in the stream), I blasted air in from my air compressor while the engine was running and haven't had a major blockage since. (Of course I was at home in front of the shop where I had access to the compressor).
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Sea Wolf
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Science lesson:
Insects, usually wasps, often plug that pee hole with another insect that has been stung and an egg buried in it.
This is the way the wasp reproduces.
The egg hatches and lives off the stung insect as a larva, then metamorphoses into and adult and flies off.
In the meantime, your motor doesn't piddle.
Use compressed air or a flexible wire to clean it out.
Happens all the time!
Joe. |
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Boont Boater
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Guys!
I think I'll try the string trimmer suggestion and maybe some compressed air before I send it to the urologist 
Jeff |
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 8:16 am Post subject: |
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I kept a piece of coat hanger in my 22 Cruiser splashwell for just that purpose. String trimmer cord would probably work too. My 45's were always clogging up with some critter or another.
Charlie
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