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Dreamer
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:07 pm Post subject: Non-Ethanol fuel in Washington |
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I was happy to find Valv-Tect Non-Ethanol gasoline at the Port Ludlow Marina last Spring. Well, Spring is fast approaching and I'd sure like to tank up on some of that non-corn stuff. There aren't too many places that sell it but here is a list. Just select your area:
Valv-Tect List _________________ Roger
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Will-C
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:47 pm Post subject: Non-Ethanol fuel in Washington |
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Roger,
Thanks for the info but looking at the search it seems it might not be ethnol free see below. Unless they are putting the ethanol treatment in there for the existing gas that might be in your tank who knows. I suspect all decafe coffee might not be decafe coffee how would we ever know?
The following search returns a list of Certified ValvTect Marine Fuel Locations. These locations have been certified to provide ValvTect Marine Gasoline with ValvTect Ethanol Gas Treatment and/or ValvTect Marine Premium Diesel with BioGuard in accordance with ValvTect's strict quality control guidelines.
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colobear
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure if this is true everywhere but the Safeway in Oak Harbor on Whidbey Island sells non-ethanol gas. Might be worth checking at other Safeway stores. _________________ Patti and Barry
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Matt Gurnsey Dealer
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Port of Bremerton informed us at the Boat Show that they will no longer be able to get Ethonal free fuel after this month.  _________________ Matt Gurnsey
Kitsap Marina
www.kitsapmarina.com
360-895-2193
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localboy
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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I checked the Safeway in Lake Stevens and the F. Meyer in Snohomish; both E-10.  _________________ "We can go over there...behind the 'little one'....."
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lloyds
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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I talked to the gentleman that was the previous owner of the 22 cruiser we just purchased and he said that ethanol has cost him almost $2000 in repairs to the Yamahas that he currently has on an aluminum boat. Has anyone else had negative effects as bad as that on their four strokes? I have been running fuel from an ARCO locally for the last four years and sometimes it is a little rough but running at near full throttle for a few minutes always cleans it out. He gave me the location of a place here in Salem that sells non-ethanol that I could buy at if I felt I needed to. |
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Matt Gurnsey Dealer
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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I would not put Arco fuel in anything I owned. Maybe in my worst enemy's car.
I think Harvey on Sleepy-C has had problems with carbs on his engines due to Ethonal. We have seen numerous ethonal related issues.
Our recomendation: Use the boat. Don't let fuel get stale. Drain carbs after use to avoid corrosion from ethonal / water mix (highly corrosive). Run Sta Bil marine formula all the time (1 oz on 10 gallons normal use, 1 in 5 for winterization). |
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localboy
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Run Sta Bil marine formula all the time (1 oz on 10 gallons normal use, 1 in 5 for winterization) |
This is what I did/do EVERY FILL. I guess I'll find out how it stored when I go pick it up next month.  |
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Pat Anderson
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:35 am Post subject: |
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I guess I need to go look, but the recommended Stabil addition rate on the container says "1 oz treats 2.5 gallons." Do other folks actually just use 1 oz per 10 gallons? That would be a LOT more economical! _________________
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20dauntless
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:15 am Post subject: |
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I haven't had any problems running E-10 in a 1997 Yamaha 200 or a 2008 Honda EFI 90. And I haven't put any fuel additives in, either. |
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DaveS
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Pat Anderson wrote: | I guess I need to go look, but the recommended Stabil addition rate on the container says "1 oz treats 2.5 gallons." Do other folks actually just use 1 oz per 10 gallons? That would be a LOT more economical! |
Pat, Local Boy (Mark) is correct. The "Marine" Sta Bil is a different "mix" than the old "red" colored Sta Bil.
When I first became aware of the "Marine" Sta Bil, I had to special order it through NAPA in Arlington since they didn't have it in stock then. Now it is probably more prevalent in stores as it was a fairly new product. _________________ Dave S.
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localboy
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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DaveS wrote: | Pat Anderson wrote: | I guess I need to go look, but the recommended Stabil addition rate on the container says "1 oz treats 2.5 gallons." Do other folks actually just use 1 oz per 10 gallons? That would be a LOT more economical! |
Pat, Local Boy (Mark) is correct. The "Marine" Sta Bil is a different "mix" than the old "red" colored Sta Bil.
When I first became aware of the "Marine" Sta Bil, I had to special order it through NAPA in Arlington since they didn't have it in stock then. Now it is probably more prevalent in stores as it was a fairly new product. |
Since moving up here back in '99 I've used the red Stabil in all my VWs, lawn mower, power washer etc since I don't use them during the looooong winter months. The key is to use the proper ratio and run the mixed fuel through the engine for ~10 minutes so it's distributed through out the ENTIRE fuel system; carbs/FI, fuel pumps etc. I have never had any issues with ANY of those engines and my black VW has VERY expensive [European] Weber carbs in it. The blue Stabil is pretty available now and although it's pricey, it's cheaper than a trip to the mechanic. Hopefully, it will work long term w/ the newer fuels.
It's going to be "interesting" what will happen this yr with the proposed increase in ethanol percentage in gas. Personally, I thinks it's driven more by politics than by science or economics. |
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Matt Gurnsey Dealer
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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The reason for the change of StaBil formula is that the older Red formula has alchohol (isopropyl) in it. The Blue (marine) formula has no alchohol in it. |
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localboy
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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I just called one of my "suppliers" of non-ethanol gas; Tom Thumb Grocery in Lake Stevens. (God. It sounds like I'm a doper and I have "dealers". RIDICULOUS! This is what radical environmenalism has caused!!!) We would fill the boat up there, as it was the closest to our house. I was told they no longer can get non-ethanol gas as of May 1, 2013. She said it was because of some "new law", but she was vague.
I researched it quickly but could not find it, although that doesn't mean a thing in the Socialist Republic of Washington. I then called another station in Snohomish. Same thing; he no longer can get non-E gas.
Last call was to Snohomish Farmers Co-Op. They said they still are carrying it. Heading down this evening. I'll report back what I find and how much this will cost per gallon.
Anyone know of any "new law" the commies in Oly have implemented or is this an Owebama "mandate"? And yeah, I'm pissed off. I wish there was a middle finger emoticon.... |
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rogerbum
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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localboy wrote: | I just called one of my "suppliers" of non-ethanol gas; Tom Thumb Grocery in Lake Stevens. (God. It sounds like I'm a doper and I have "dealers". RIDICULOUS! This is what radical environmenalism has caused!!!) We would fill the boat up there, as it was the closest to our house. I was told they no longer can get non-ethanol gas as of May 1, 2013. She said it was because of some "new law", but she was vague.
I researched it quickly but could not find it, although that doesn't mean a thing in the Socialist Republic of Washington. I then called another station in Snohomish. Same thing; he no longer can get non-E gas.
Last call was to Snohomish Farmers Co-Op. They said they still are carrying it. Heading down this evening. I'll report back what I find and how much this will cost per gallon.
Anyone know of any "new law" the commies in Oly have implemented or is this an Owebama "mandate"? And yeah, I'm pissed off. I wish there was a middle finger emoticon.... |
Just a thought, but you might try to be pissed off at the right people. The ethanol fuel mandate is driven more by corn farmers in the midwest than by "radical environmentalism". Do some digging and find out who lobbies for this.
Now as to the practicalities of getting non ethanol fuel, Everett Marina has it at their pumps (at least they did on Sat). _________________ Roger on Meant to be |
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