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olsurfdog
Joined: 13 Nov 2009 Posts: 185 City/Region: Carmel Valley
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1989
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Summer
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:28 am Post subject: Aftermarket alternator |
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Hi!! I'm a new member/new C-Dory owner. Been soaking up this site for the last few weeks--lots to learn.
The boat I purchased is an'89 22 crusier. It has a'89 Johson 70. It also has a full load of electronics and Wallas. A two battery system with a trickle charger (needs a real 3-stage charger). The problem is the enigine only has a 6amp alternator. Must be enough to keep the motor running but I don't think much else, such as recharging a run down house batttery. Is there such a thing as a aftermarket alternator that puts more than the stock one? The only other thing I can see is to get a generator to use with the new charger ( thats coming) or be sure that every night ends at a marina!
Purchased the Mildred E (current name) in Port Angeles. Not sure of her new name but her new home is Carmel, CA. I'm a first time power boat owner but a long time rag sailor. Looking foward to cruising and exploring new placesand being a member of this great club!!
Michael |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
Photos: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:46 am Post subject: |
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olsurfdog-
Welcome aboard to the C-Brat Ship!
Great to hear from another new member!
It's probably simpler to just stick with the 6-amp alternator in the Johnson, and buy a 1000 or 2000 Watt quiet inverter-type generator like a Honda or Yamaha, and a good three-stage, two-bank charger for the boat's batteries.
You'll need both of these in the long run, and trying to raise the amperage of the alternator on the Johnson would be difficult, since it's mostly a stationary unit under the flywheel activated by the magnet in the flywheel, not a belt-driven unit such as found on larger motors.
Have fun, good luck, and welcome aboard!
Joe.  _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
 
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12637 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:39 am Post subject: |
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olsufrdog,
Welcome to the C-Brats, the worlds biggest nicest family. Lot's to see and do, learn and share here. Glad to see that the Mildred E went to a good home. I can assure you that Terry is missing her already.
I have a couple of photos of the Mildred E in her old home waters at John Wayne Marina, in my album. Follow the link to the album page, and go to the bottom of the page, middle two pix.
http://www.c-brats.com/modules.php?set_albumName=C-Dorys-weve-seen&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
Enjoy and travel safe,
Harvey
SleepyC  _________________ Though in our sleep we are not conscious of our activity or surroundings, we should not, in our wakefulness, be unconscious of our sleep. |
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Larry H
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2041 City/Region: Tulalip,
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1991
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Photos: Nancy H
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:46 am Post subject: |
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olsurfdog,
The 89 Johnson does not use any of the alternator output to run the engine. The ignition is powered by a separate coil under the flywheel.
The alternator output is not regulated and if no electricity is being used while the motor is running, the voltage will rise above 12 volts and can get as high as 16-18 volts. This high voltage can damage electronics. These motors should have a volt meter so the operator can monitor the voltage. If the voltage gets too high, turn on the running lights or other load to reduce the voltage.
I had the same motor as a 91 model and I found that the alternator could not keep up with the running lights, VHF, and crt depthfinder all operated at once.
There is no economical way to increase the alternator output.
My advise, run what you have, charge the bats as needed from shore power or a generator, and save your $$ for a newer engine. A solar panel with a 2 to 4 amp output would help a lot.
Oh, and welcome to the pub!!
Retired Johnson/Evinrude mechanic. _________________ Larry H
A C-Brat since Nov 1, 2003
Ranger Tug 27 ex 'Jacari Maru' 2017 - 2022
Puget Trawler 37 ex 'Jacari Maru' 2006-2017
1991 22' Cruiser, 'Nancy H'--1991-2006 |
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olsurfdog
Joined: 13 Nov 2009 Posts: 185 City/Region: Carmel Valley
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1989
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Summer
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys for the info, I've got a lot to learn. I'm excited about that and being part of this great community.
I guess my next purchase will be a new charger ( a good one) and soon a new generator. I have a new kicker on the way and no end of projects to get started!
Harvey, thank you for the pictures. Terry took good care of her-she has obviously had a good life. Now I'll do my best.
Michael |
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 7313 City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Captain's Choice II
Photos: Captain's Cat
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome to the Brats Michael! We used to live there, had a rental home high in Carmel Highlands and later bought one in Marina when I went to USNPGS. Had an old sailboat in Montery Marina too, long before C-Dory days back in 1967-70! That's a great spot to boat.
Enjoy your boat!
Charlie _________________ CHARLIE and PENNY CBRAT #100
Captain's Cat II 2005 22 Cruiser
Thataway (2006 TC255 - Sold Aug 2013)
Captain's Cat (2006 TC255 - Sold January 2012)
Captain's Kitten (1995 CD 16 Angler- Sold June 2010)
Captain's Choice (1994 CD 22 Cruiser- Sold Jun 2007)
Potomac River/Chesapeake Bay
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Matt Gurnsey Dealer
Joined: 11 Nov 2008 Posts: 1532 City/Region: Port Orchard
State or Province: WA
Photos: Kitsap Marina
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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There is an upgrade for the charging system on that motor. It is the E-Tec 75 and replaced the engire engine / charging system.  _________________ Matt Gurnsey
Kitsap Marina
www.kitsapmarina.com
360-895-2193
(888) 293-7991 |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1808 City/Region: Wasilla
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Whisperer
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Aftermarket alternator |
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I really wouldn't worry about it too much. I have a 35 year old 4 cylinder 140 hp evinrude on the back of my old fishing boat in Spokane and it runs (all at once) the VHF, the fishfinder, the GPS, and the stereo just fine. In fact, all that stuff is almost always on so it has been well tested. I doubt it puts out any more amps than your 70 does and I never have had to charge the battery except for the times I was an idiot and left everything on when putting the boat on the trailer at the dock. However, the Wallas drinks amps when starting up so you may want to run the engine and turn everything else off upone fire up for the first ten minutes or so. Other than that, I wouldn't worry, but I would monitor everything at first just to be on the safe side as a precaution.
olsurfdog wrote: | Hi!! I'm a new member/new C-Dory owner. Been soaking up this site for the last few weeks--lots to learn.
The boat I purchased is an'89 22 crusier. It has a'89 Johson 70. It also has a full load of electronics and Wallas. A two battery system with a trickle charger (needs a real 3-stage charger). The problem is the enigine only has a 6amp alternator. Must be enough to keep the motor running but I don't think much else, such as recharging a run down house batttery. Is there such a thing as a aftermarket alternator that puts more than the stock one? The only other thing I can see is to get a generator to use with the new charger ( thats coming) or be sure that every night ends at a marina!
Purchased the Mildred E (current name) in Port Angeles. Not sure of her new name but her new home is Carmel, CA. I'm a first time power boat owner but a long time rag sailor. Looking foward to cruising and exploring new placesand being a member of this great club!!
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SEA3PO
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 1835 City/Region: Chester
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SEA3PO
Photos: SEA3PO
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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I think I would go buy a nice solar charger and mount it on the cabin ....problem solved... will keep the batteries topped off..
Joel
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