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DickAndSharon



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:12 pm    Post subject: Removing Water Heater Reply with quote

We have a 25', and are thinking about removing the water heater. Most of our time is spent at anchor, so the heater is using a lot of storage space for no purpose. We find a 1 gallon garden sprayer to be just as effective as the built-in shower and uses less water.
The heater is a Seaward S700. It has 4 hoses connected to the front of the unit. Only one is identified (Drain). I assume I should be able to connect some combination of these hoses so that we get water from either faucet. But which gets connected to which? Any guidance?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you could just disconnect the water heater feed at the water pump outlet manifold. Before removing the tank, maybe carefully write down how to replace everything for a possible future sale.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: Water Reply with quote

YACD wrote:
Maybe you could just disconnect the water heater feed at the water pump outlet manifold. Before removing the tank, maybe carefully write down how to replace everything for a possible future sale.


Good idea, I also suggest taking close digital pictures that you can use as a resource should you choose to reinstall it.

Good luck.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I removed by 25 water heater last year in the quest for an instant water heater--then had to put it back because of the lack of suitability of the small heater I obtained. There is an "In" and and "out" hose on the back. These have to be connected together with a single barbed fitting.
The "drain" and over pressure/tempature lines are just taken off, and then you can plug them with a dowel and hose clamp near the thru hull fittings, under the gunnel. Not a hard job to do. You do gain a lot of storage space.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am really thinking about getting rid of the hot water heater too...some day there will be a functional propane flash heater, right now, this puppy is just taking up valuable space!
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thataway



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used a flash propane heater in the sailboats we built--I don't think it would be that good for the C Dory. One of the problems is the venting and CO. It has to be out in the open, so probably the head would be the best place, but heads are crowded to start with...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C'mon folks. It's a water heater, not a HOT water heater. If the water was hot, you wouldn't need it.... Just one of my pet peeves... Crook

On edit, most of you got it right....Only Mr. Anderson ESQ, called it a "Hot water heater"... Wouldn't you know it!! Shocked Laughing

And I'm thinking of removing ours from the CAT too, never used it, don't think it works... Lots of storage under there.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine will be removed, and replaced with a 2.5 gal. unit mounted to the hull up behind the sink. One of a long list of projects on this puppy.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand the quest for more storage space on the 25. But if you remove the water heater wouldn't you lose 6 gallons of fresh water capacity. I always turn on the water pressure switch to be sure to fill the water heater when I fill the fresh water. On longer trips I think I would rather have the 6 gallons of fresh water more than the storage space even if the water isn't hot. Just a thought.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 6 gallons, or whatever a water heater holds, is "lost" water. You can't get it out of the heater when the jet pump runs out of water from the water holding tank. So taking the heater out of the system will not diminish the amount of water you can use.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you decide to bypass the (cold Smile ) water heater by joining the inlet and outlet of the hot water tank it might be wise to subsequently get half your water from each of the hot and cold faucets to avoid a buildup of stale or worse water in the newly joined pipe. In theory, contaminated water in that pipe could infect the rest of the water supply by diffusion through the pump. A low probability event I'm sure but why risk it?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YACD, just remove the hot water pipe (or at least disconnect it) and then cap the inlet to the faucet.

As for the extra 6 gallons, you could use the "Drain" from the water heater, but we always carry an extra 5 gallon water can. There are several reasons. 1- if we run out, 5 gallons will do us well for at least a day with all uses--a week for emergency drinking use. 2- the water can be moved to distribute weight 3. if you have to "abandon ship" the 5 gallons of water may save your life. You can live a long time without food, but not without fresh water.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I purchased an RV By-Pass kit for the water heater. All the fittings in the
water system have what looks like 5200 on all the threads. My initial effort
found these fittings would not budge; even with the clamps removed.

Has anyone disconnected these fittings? Was a heat gun needed? What is
the best way to go about this? Will they have to be destroyed and
replaced?

Since I don't have any leaks and the heater works fine, I'm being very
conservative in this approach. I have been adding abt 7 gals of antifreeze
each year to winterize the systerm, plus one for the holding tank.

If all goes well here, I plan on adding a water filter for the sink cold water
line without cutting the line.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Art

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat Anderson wrote:
some day there will be a functional propane flash heater


Some day as in some day I will buy one, or some day as in some day someone will design one? If the former, what would you buy?

Warren

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As usual, the contrarian here! We love our water heater and the hot showers onboard. Compared to most Marina showers, it's heavenly! Of course, the TC has copious storage in the sponsons so it's not as big a deal.

We run the 2000w. Honda Generator in the AM, heat water, shower, top off batteries, make coffee and use the hair dryer in about an hour. We can anchor out for three days this way until the fresh water runs out.


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