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journey on
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 3598 City/Region: Valley Centre
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: journey on
Photos: Journey On
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject: C-25 Washdown Pump |
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Does anyone have a washdown pump installed on their C-Dory 25?
If so, where is the pump located? Where is the washdown faucet located? Any pics?
I'm tired of anchoring in mud and bringing "a lot" up with the chain and into the anchor locker. I'm going to hard wire the washdown pump I carry, so that maybe I'll use it (or Judy will.)
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JamesTXSD
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 7481 City/Region: from island boy to desert dweller
State or Province: AZ
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: "Wild Blue" (sold 9/14)
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Boris,
We have a factory-installed fresh water wash down pump. The pump is installed under the step by the door and the outlet for it is on the port exterior cabin wall (at the cockpit). You may not want to use a fresh water washdown for cleaning the anchor/rode since it would deplete your fresh water (the reason the factory usually did raw water washdowns). We use ours for rinsing off after getting out of the water. Our hose reaches to the swim step just fine, not sure if it would go to the bow (we're not at the boat right now or I'd check for you).
If our anchor is muddied up, Joan generally gives me the signal to run the windlass up and down a few times. If that doesn't get all the mud off, we have run slowly with the anchor just in the water. Just don't take off and forget it's down.
There have been a few times when a raw water wash down would be nice, but I don't want ANY thru-hull openings below the waterline.
Best wishes,
Jim |
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journey on
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 3598 City/Region: Valley Centre
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: journey on
Photos: Journey On
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Jim, is there any reason that one couldn't tee off the head water intake and use that for the pump?. It's right in the same place.
Does the outlet come out on the aft bulkhead of the cabin or from under the port lazerette?
Boris |
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JamesTXSD
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 7481 City/Region: from island boy to desert dweller
State or Province: AZ
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: "Wild Blue" (sold 9/14)
Photos: Wild Blue
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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journey on wrote: | Jim, is there any reason that one couldn't tee off the head water intake and use that for the pump?. It's right in the same place.
Does the outlet come out on the aft bulkhead of the cabin or from under the port lazerette?
Boris |
Hi Boris,
I don't see a problem with T-ing off the head water intake. I'd put a ball valve on that line to shut it off so there isn't any draw on that line (assuming you have a vaccu-flush type toilet). The outlet on our boat (and all the other 25s I've seen) is on the aft bulkhead, facing out to the cockpit.
Best wishes,
Jim |
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journey on
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 3598 City/Region: Valley Centre
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: journey on
Photos: Journey On
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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Jim, bitchen. Thanks for mentioning the shutoff valve. Whilst we don't have a vaccu flush that I know of, I'll have to separate the two circuits, so air isn't pulled back.
Well now I have project 2894-a for the boat.
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toyman
Joined: 11 Jan 2009 Posts: 556 City/Region: Lake Livingston
State or Province: TX
C-Dory Year: 2006
Vessel Name: Fan-C-Dory
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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My raw-water wash down pump is installed near the hull side, behind the water heater, under the aft dinette seat, aft corner. If you install your pump as earlier discussed it will of course use whatever water your toilet uses - if you flush with raw water, that is what you will wash down with. _________________ Dave W.
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Stuck in the 70's,
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21384 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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The raw water washdown pump on Frequent Sea (25) was "T" off the head intake. There was not shut off to the head, but should be. The pump was under the "closet" aft of the dinette, and the outlet and switch is on the port aft bulkhead--about the same type as on the Tom Cat 255. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
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Home port: Pensacola FL |
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Aurelia
Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Posts: 2335 City/Region: Gig Harbor
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:55 am Post subject: |
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I have a 25 with raw water washdown from the factory and it has a T off the head intake and has a valve under the step just inside the door. I don't think it was used much in the last couple of years and when I turn it on it blows it's fuse within and makes no noise. Do I have a seized pump? The pum is under the step and partially inside the aft port cabinet bottom. Is there an easy way to exercise the pump to get it unstuck or should I be shopping for a replacement? Any ideas?
Greg _________________ Greg, Cindie & Aven
Gig Harbor
Aurelia - 25 Cruiser sold 2012
Ari - 19 Cruiser sold 2023
currently exploring with "Lia", 17 ft Bullfrog Supersport Pilothouse |
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journey on
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 3598 City/Region: Valley Centre
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: journey on
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Greg, your timing is great. I'm just trying to repair the fresh water and sewage pumps. Those pumps have permanent magnet DC motors, which will draw maximum current at start-up under a load. Since there's a low load until the pressure builds up, the fuse shouldn't blow, unless the motor is jammed or shorted.
This morning, I pulled a sewage pump/macerator apart to see if the impeller or the motor was stuck. I lost, the motor was stuck, and I'll have to get a new macerator.
You can check, by feeling the case to see if the pump starts up or the fuse just blows.
By the way, none of the pumps in Journey On have an internal fuse. What make of pump is it?
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Aurelia
Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Posts: 2335 City/Region: Gig Harbor
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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I will be on the boat all weekend and will take a look then. The fuse blows in seconds and there is no other noise or action from the pump so it sounds like its just stuck. |
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Aurelia
Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Posts: 2335 City/Region: Gig Harbor
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journey on
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 3598 City/Region: Valley Centre
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: journey on
Photos: Journey On
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Well, Journey On cqme with a FloJet 4405, which pumps 3.3 gpm, at 45 psig. It has no need for an accumulator tank because it has an internal bypass to recirculate excess water inside pump. I don't have a clue as to what that means, but one can't use it with an accumulator.
Unless Sea Wolf has a different opinion, go for it.
Did you know that both Surflo and Flojet are owned by ITT (which used to mean International Telephone and Telegraph). I take it they changed their product line.
Just make sure you flush your tank and water lines, The filter in the pump I pulled apart was filled with strings of plastic. Can't figure out from where they came.
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