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Perry60sRocker



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:46 pm    Post subject: Trailer for 22 Reply with quote

What is the best trailer to get for a 22. I am looking at 4 c-dory 22"s one with twin 40's one with twin 50's one with a honda 90 and one with a suzki 90 any thoughts very much appreciated. Thank you
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colobear



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C-Dory Year: 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an EZ-Loader dual axle model and have been very happy with it. If at all possible you should consider getting electric over hydraulic brakes rather than the surge brakes most trailers come with. They are much safer and give you a great deal of control on hills etc.
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Connie Fisher
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:57 pm    Post subject: EZ-LOADER trailer Reply with quote

Hello, we purchased a 1983, 22’ Classic, which came home on the original antiquated single axle trailer.

To replace the trailer with a single axle trailer, somehow did not make since after pulling the boat home from Houston, Tx (we live in Iowa)

I became a EZ-LOADER trailer dealer, so I could purchase a specific trailer, see R-DORY in our album to see the trailer.

Boat loads very easy, notice we do not have or need a winch.

Any questions about the trailer, contact me at ron@ronfisher.com

Regards,

Ron Fisher
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Tommy J



Joined: 30 Sep 2009
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City/Region: Mt Vernon
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1991
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We originally had the single axial EZ loader that came with the older CD 22 cruisers. It was underwt and was not adequate for the boat. We bought a new "King" tandem axial trailer in 2004 with the stainless steel surge disc brakes. We have had caulkins and other trailers and I swore I would never have anything but a EZ loader but believe it or not they did not make a model at that time that perfectly fit out boat. We actually bought one and tried our best to fit it but it just wasnt right - EZ loader themselves confirmed that fact to me in person. Therefore we went with the King and I must say it is a great trailer. Definitly on a par with the EZ loader. As far as the brakes, I would go with the SS disc in a heartbeat. They are exposed and easy to wash down plus I can change the pads easily/cheaply myself. The only drawback is if you do alot of mountain travelling (down steep grades) the surge action could wear excessively but ours are 5 yrs old (overall low miles) and we have gone to Chelan twice (about 300 mile round trip from sea level up and over 5000' passes) and the pads are less than half worn. We also have the "torsion suspension" and have had no problems. We have a power winch but its not a must. Good luck.
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Matt Gurnsey
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an FWIW-

The stainless disc brakes have been phased out, as there were numerous problems with warpage due to heat.

The newer disc brakes don't have this heat issue, and have all the benefits of the disc brake system. King has made disc brakes standard on their trailers with brakes.

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Capital Sea



Joined: 16 Dec 2007
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City/Region: Olympia
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C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would agree with those above who recommend two axle 4 disc brakes LED lights, and King slightly over EZ loader.
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thataway



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also favor a two axle trailer. Many states require brakes on both axels, and I also favor disc brakes. If you do a lot of mountains, the electric over hyraulic is desirable, but we have done thousands of moutain miles with surge brakes. We use brakes very rarely, when on grades--just keep the speed down, and use engine compression. My RV has over 65,000 miles on the original set of brakes--and I was just told that they are still in great shape on inspection.

I definately prefer Kodiak brakes over tie down. Most trailers are assembled from common parts. Although the West Coast uses Galvanized steel trailers, the East Coast, and Gulf Coast favor aluminum trailers. Our experience is that the Aluminum trailers last longer, and are considerably lighter. Any brand trailer can be modified to fit the C Dory. It just takes proper adjustments of bunks/rollers.

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Connie Fisher
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I purchased a EZ-LOADER because I did not know better and have been pleased with the outcome.

However, the trailer we purchased was custom built/assembled in Elkhart, Indiana from (supposedly) old dimensional specs to fit our pre 1987 C-Dory Classic.

The trailer came “supposedly” adjusted and set up to fit our boat, but was not even close.

After the initial panic, adjustments were made by our local marine service to fit our boat with very positive results.

There are/were many options available since each trailer is assembled/bolted together per order.

I would buy one again but did spent a lot of time working out the details and as I said earlier, became a EZ-LOADER dealer to purchase this one custom trailer.
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breausaw



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
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City/Region: Anchorage
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C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TripleJ came with an EZ-LOADER Duel axel with hydraulic surge brakes, factory oil bath sealed hubs, and torsion bar suspension; the trailer has performed flawlessly. The boat and trailer have been over the Alaska Highway 3 times between WA and Alaska, and we put about 100 miles on it most every weekend during the summer. Always launch in salt, and I don’t often have time rinse off the brakes tell I get it home.

This year I finally got around to changing out the oil in the hubs, it ran clear and was a simple task to perform; the trailer had well over 12k miles on it and this was its first wheel bearing service. The surge brakes have worked great, would recommend them over the electric hydraulic. I pulled the boat and trailer up from WA, the hydraulic surge brakes are a no brainer.

All the lights still work!

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journey on



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

breausaw,

You know, I've just got to change the oil in those wheel bearings. I wonder if you would comment on three things:

How did you get that plastic cap off?

How did you put the oil back in?

What oil did you use?

I guess those questions sound as if I'm gonna do something indecent. However after 5 years the oil is still clear.

Boris
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breausaw



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
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C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

journey on wrote:
breausaw,

You know, I've just got to change the oil in those wheel bearings. I wonder if you would comment on three things:

How did you get that plastic cap off?

How did you put the oil back in?

What oil did you use?

I guess those questions sound as if I'm gonna do something indecent. However after 5 years the oil is still clear.

Boris


Boris,

If yours are like mine, there is a hex head plug on the hub.

-Jack up the trailer,
-Rotate wheel so plug is up,
-Take out plug,
-Rotate down to drain,
-Rotate up to fill, (I used a 30cc syringe)
-Put the plug back with Blue locktite….done!

I just looked at the sight glass before I drained the oil and filled back to that mark, it’s easy to overfill because it takes a while for the oil to level out..Had to play with that process some.

The dealer told me to use any good 90 weight gear oil. I was going to bring it to them but the guy said its easy and walked me through the process.

Jay
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Sea Wolf



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Connie Fisher wrote:
I purchased a EZ-LOADER because I did not know better and have been pleased with the outcome.

However, the trailer we purchased was custom built/assembled in Elkhart, Indiana from (supposedly) old dimensional specs to fit our pre 1987 C-Dory Classic.

The trailer came “supposedly” adjusted and set up to fit our boat, but was not even close.

After the initial panic, adjustments were made by our local marine service to fit our boat with very positive results.

There are/were many options available since each trailer is assembled/bolted together per order.

I would buy one again but did spent a lot of time working out the details and as I said earlier, became a EZ-LOADER dealer to purchase this one custom trailer.


Connie-

I'd like to point out to those new to the C-Brat family that the absolutely flat bottom the the Classic C-Dory 22's (those manufactured before 1987) makes that boat harder to fit a trailer to than the later models with a shallow 2 degree V bottom with a moderate amount of rocker fore and aft.

The later boats fit most trailers fairly readily.

The Classics, in which the bottom looks just like a clothes iron in sheer line shape and is absolutely flat just like the iron as well, require some special adjustment of most trailers.

The original trailers had one big, flat, full-width, boat-wide roller on the very rear of the trailer to facilitate rolling the flat bottom boat onto the trailer and featured flat bunks as well, if my memory serves regarding those discussions. They also had side-roller/guide-ons to keep the boat centered as it rolled up onto the trailer. This was not a conventional-looking trailer!

Someone correct me if I'm remembering things wrong, but I just wanted to point out that the special shape of the Classic makes for special trailer design requirements.

I'm glad you were able to make your new trailer work after considerable adjustments.

Cheers!

Joe. Teeth Thumbs Up

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Connie Fisher
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Joe,

Our trailer does not have any rollers at all, anywhere, nada.

I hope that I did not allude to any dissatisfaction with EZ-LOADER or the trailer we purchased, in fact quite the contrary.

The factory folks in Indiana communicated wonderfully and did deliver a trailer we are pleased to own.

In the end, (after the initial panic) the trailer works without any complaint from us and looks terrific (see photo album).

Regards,

Ron
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Hunkydory



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City/Region: Cokeville, Wyoming
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C-Dory Year: 2000
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boat came with a single axle EZ Loader trailer with surge brakes. Made two trips to Alaska and one to Prince Rupert, BC and in 6 years a total of over 40,000 miles. Single axle trailer towed great and surge brakes worked out well with using a 3/4 ton and 1 ton Duramax as tow vehicle. Only problems in that time was broke 2 roller support arms in Skagway, Alaska and felt the single axle trailer was to hard on the boat on the rougher roads such as the Cassiar Highway going to Alaska. With retirement coming in spring 2010 and more Alaska and other trips planned where I didn't want to be concerned with weight and road grades, we decided on a EZ Loader duel axle, with upgraded tires, torsion suspension, electric over hydraulic disk brakes, galvanized and bunks.

Breaking the roller support arms and no parts available for up to a week ended our love affair with the roller set up. Also where we have the boat sitting on the trailer when not on a trip felt they would better support the trailer during these long winters. Have only launched once since new trailer purchase, but it was fairly flat and shallow and it wasn't any more difficult then with rollers.

Checked out many different trailer makes of which several looked well made and had the options we wanted. High on the list was Pacific Trailers out of Calif. Found the new dealer held 2007 EZ Loader make they upgraded to our wants for a good price or could have ended up with the Pacific or King. Boat fits to trailer well now but didn't like they way the dealer did set up. Bottom outside edge of boat fit to close to frame and felt even with side guides they could hit when loading, so raised bunks to highest setting to be sure of clearance.

Jay

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