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Wandering Sagebrush



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:19 am    Post subject: Dirty Secret about LEDs Reply with quote

I started having trouble with a led trailer light after leaving lake Powell. It was intermittent, then failed. At first I suspected the wiring harness on the trailer, but when I pulled the light off to get at the wiring, I noticed a three prong connector that goes into the light itself. It had completely pulled out. Works fine once plugged in.

This was on one of the new series lights that EZ Loader is selling.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:47 am    Post subject: Re: Dirty Secret about LEDs Reply with quote

Wandering Sagebrush wrote:
I started having trouble with a led trailer light after leaving lake Powell. It was intermittent, then failed. At first I suspected the wiring harness on the trailer, but when I pulled the light off to get at the wiring, I noticed a three prong connector that goes into the light itself. It had completely pulled out. Works fine once plugged in.

This was on one of the new series lights that EZ Loader is selling.


I've never seen one of these.

Sounds like a nice feature for ease of lamp replacement, but I wonder if this plug connection would be a source of corrosion and failure, particularly if exposed to salt water, which would depend on the overall lamp enclosure design. This is the same, in that respect, as a typical bulb socket, more or less, etc. Your comments?

Thanks!

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Wandering Sagebrush



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:58 am    Post subject: LED Reply with quote

Joe, the sockets and pins on the connector were entirely coated in a dielectric grease. Should be fairly corrosion free....

On the road from Utah....

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ones I used recently are completely sealed units without any connection at the light unit. The weak link is the butt connector for connecting the wires from the light units to the wiring harness which get submerged on my trailer when launching/retrieving. I sealed mine with heat shrink and self sealing tape.

Chris
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris,

For all my connections on a trailer, I use heat shrink butt connectors from Fisheries Supply. They're made by Ancor and work great, completely waterproof!


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J & C



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dreamer wrote:
Chris,

For all my connections on a trailer, I use heat shrink butt connectors from Fisheries Supply. They're made by Ancor and work great, completely waterproof!



Roger - I've used those in the past ('75 fiberglass Boler camper). They work great - but are expensive. The clear heat shrink in bulk is cheap as is the self sealing tape. For some reason I always end up redoing my wiring projects Embarassed so it quickly adds up.

Chris
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Capn Jack



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:58 pm    Post subject: Water proof splices Reply with quote

Wrap the splice with Teflon Tape, slide the heat shrink over it and then use a heatgun until the teflon melts and starts to ooze out of the ends of the shrink. FAA aproved and cheap to do. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also use the heat shrink connectors but first fill them with silicone dielectric grease. Then crimp them and lastly heat them until the silicone squeezes out.
Very similar to the other Jack
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:41 am    Post subject: Splices Reply with quote

I haven't seen them in a long time, but back when I worked on aircraft, we had "non-insulated" splices...Those were the ones we used heat shrink on (less bulky). CoolSmile Jack (Also)
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