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Bigfish16
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 Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject: 60 Yamaha on a 22 angler? |
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Matt Gurnsey
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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I know someone with a 60 Yamaha on a 19 Angler that they bought used, and they are not happy with the performance.
It will depend on what you are trying to acheive.
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Wandering Sagebrush
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: 60 Yamaha on a 22 angler? |
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| Bigfish16 wrote: | | Any thoughts? |
It all depends on what you want to do with the boat. I like to get offshore with my 22, and that would not be enough get up and go when crossing the bar between the bay and ocean.
Steve
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: 60 Yamaha on a 22 angler? |
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| Bigfish16 wrote: | | Any thoughts? |
Yup...you'll hate it.
Had one on my old 19 Angler...the first one built, under the "new" C-Dory (Reynolds family.)
They had no idea how to power it, and thinking the 19 should take somewhat less than a 22, we plopped an F60 on it.
It would barely plane, lightly loaded - and took forever to get there. It was simply horrendous...my dealer worked things out with C-Dory who had suggested the F60, and an F80 replaced it.
Given how bad it was on a 19, I can only imagine how bad a 60 would be on a 22.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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If you only wanted to go displacement speed (in this case less than 8 to 10 knots--might be OK)--otherwise, go to a 90. You will be happier in the long run.
With the 60 and a Permatrim, you might get on a plane, but as noted above you will not be happy.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| If you just want to go displacement speeds you could get by with a lot less than 60hp. But I'd say a 90 is your best bet if for nothing other than resale value. |
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Sea Wolf
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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60 Yamaha on a 22 angler?
Short by at least 15 hp!
60hp= 
75 hp= 
90hp= 
100 hp= 
115hp= 
Joe.  
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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One more comment - while you could conceivably be happy with a 60HP engine if you only wanted to go at displacement speeds, it will lower the resale value since most potential buyers would not be happy. So if you really want to go slow, I'd still power it with a 90HP and just pull back on the throttle.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:31 pm Post subject: will be disappointed unless |
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60 on a 22. You will be disappointed unless you are planning on displacement speeds only, and then like mentioned above, you can get by on much less. I have twin 40's and would opt for 50's at some point. 80 will do, but you will not be the leader of the pack. I doubt that the economy of the 2 40's is any better than 2 50's. You will be working that 60 way to hard.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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If you are going to replace it! Put a 115 on it! You will be amazed at the power and security of getting out of a jam when loaded. Go big or go home!
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Don't know about a 60 Yamaha, but run often the equivalent of 61 combined hp out of twin Honda 40's on Yellowstone Lake at almost 8000 feet altitude. It would not plane if loaded with 7 people and camping supplies, but would plane nicely if moderately loaded at 14 mph with around 4200 rpm and max speed being 19 to 20 mph. Now would I prefer more hp? Most definitely!!! and as others have stated they would too. 80 hp is the minimum I would recommend and if budget allowed or if forced to re power it would be with a minimum of 90 hp.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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60 HP is plenty for a 22 angler if you stay light -- as I do. Lots of other views, of course -- and I have a 90 on the present angler. I fish 2, sleep 0 and keep the boat as light as possible. The Angler was designed for a light 2-stroke, and the 75 Suzy on the 22 "Little Buddy" was a beautiful combination -- for me. The go-fast, load heavy, camper folks would not be happy with 60 HP.
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Matt Gurnsey
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| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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The problem will be that the 60 HP Yamaha is heavier than the 2 strokes, and doesn't have the torque, so will struggle to get even a lightly loaded 22 Angler up on plane.
A 60 Evinrude E-Tec would have a much easier time on that boat. |
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Jack in Alaska
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| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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A 90 HP 4 stroke is optimum for "normal" usage. You will hate it if you go smaller.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject: c-22 |
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We had a 50hp on a 22 cruiser it would do 15mph with 3 people on board but that was wide open throttle . maybe with one person and just planed off you could keep it at below 5000rpm .I replaced it witha 90 hp suzuki very happy with results
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