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Dan McNally



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:20 am    Post subject: hour meter Reply with quote

Ok brats help me out, does anyone know if a hour meter records straight time run or is the time recorded varied with rpms? Or better stated does the hour meter show more hours at full throttle then at idle?

Thanks for your input,

Dan
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On our Honda twin forty's with Honda gauges and hour meters the hour meters run off the ignition key. When the key is on the hour meter is counting time whether the engine is running or not. Found this out when I accidentally left the ignition key on and found I had run up an extra 5 hours on the starboard engine.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: hour meter Reply with quote

Dan McNally wrote:
Ok brats help me out, does anyone know if a hour meter records straight time run or is the time recorded varied with rpms? Or better stated does the hour meter show more hours at full throttle then at idle?

Thanks for your input,

Dan


Dan, never heard of one that varied with rpms, only those that count time when the key is on...

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:59 am    Post subject: Yep Reply with quote

Ditto....simple device clicking time the moment it has DC juice.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a new Honda hour meter is installed for a Honda engine that already has,say, 200 hours on it, will the meter show zero or 200?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dotnmarty wrote:
If a new Honda hour meter is installed for a Honda engine that already has,say, 200 hours on it, will the meter show zero or 200?

MartyP


When I got my new Yami earlier this year the digital gauge read 0. Now I have an analog gauge that reads something like 370 and an integrated digital gauge that reads 42.

Now I know how long the boat has run since 1994 -- as well as how many hours I have on the new motor. I don't know whether the gauge can be forwarded -- but you could certainly power it for the 200 hours (power just the gauge, not the ignition) to get where you want it to be.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tortuga,

If you want to run that hour meter back....find yourself a old time used car dealer....they will know how to do it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Honda digital gauges only record time when the motor is running, not just when the key is turned on.
General Motors vehicles consider other operating parameters when telling you when to change the oil, but that's not the case with outboards.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minnow wrote:
The Honda digital gauges only record time when the motor is running, not just when the key is turned on.
General Motors vehicles consider other operating parameters when telling you when to change the oil, but that's not the case with outboards.

Well a statement like that after I already posted our Honda hour meters run just off the ignition key sent me out to the boat for another look at the hour meters. An apology is in order because I found all the gauges related to Honda motors to be Honda except wouldn't you know it "the hour meters". Found them to have the name OMRON marked on the front. So with my apologies on giving wrong info on Honda gauges I can say OMRON hour meters on our Honda motors count time from the ignition key being turned on whether motors are running or not.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Papillon wrote:
Tortuga,

If you want to run that hour meter back....find yourself a old time used car dealer....they will know how to do it.


Or maybe you could just go out and drive around in reverse for a day or two?? Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minnow wrote:
The Honda digital gauges only record time when the motor is running, not just when the key is turned on.
General Motors vehicles consider other operating parameters when telling you when to change the oil, but that's not the case with outboards.


My digital gauge recorded about 300 hours last winter when I left the key, so not sure this is true.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 87 hours worth of proof that the Honda BF90 hobbs meter runs when the ignition is left in the ON position and not just when the motor is running.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lost a long post responding to this, but here's the short version:

I think the old motors just had an electric clock that ran when the key was on.

The new EFI models have total control computers on board, just like cars, that record actual hours running (plus all parameters, sensors, error codes, etc.), and can be downloaded to another computer or sensor set.

Mine records hours run at each rpm group range (in 500 rpm increments) on my 2005 Yamaha 90 EFI model. (Tells the Technician whether you've been naughty or nice!)

Fun to read the printouts!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting information. It would seem that there could be any number of ways that time is recorded depending on what type of unit you have. I would think that the best way to measure use would be to have a variable speed setup, it would seem that high rpms and low idle rpms need to be accounted for.
Thanks for help.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have the analog type hour meter (I have a 2005 25) you can reset the hour meter to zero by jumping across two of the four contacts on the back of the meter. The problem is I can't remember which two. Les would know. I once left the key on and ran the meters up. I reset and then ran them back to where they where supposed to be.
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