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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:19 am Post subject: Useful tool, good explination |
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Tim,
Thanks for the really great display and explanation. It looks like it is a very good tool, useful for information, techy enjoyment, and for safety. I do think it would be worth having, especially when transiting highly used commercial traffic areas in limited visibility situations. So far, I have been fairly successful in guarding my exposure to that type of incident, but I think of AIS kind of like carrying an inflated dingy or current flares and overly rated PFD's. Do I want them there? YES! Do I want to know how to use them? YES! Do I need to use them? Hope not. I am considering including AIS on board, whether it will be just a receiver or a fully active transponder may have some to do with what the admirable says, and either way it is down a ways on the boat priority list.
You are a long way ahead of me on the use of the C120, and I need to be doing some catchup there. Just need to be spending more time on the water for that. Oh, another good reason to be on the water more.
Thanks again for the neat chart displays and useful, understandable explanations.
Harvey
SleepyC _________________ Though in our sleep we are not conscious of our activity or surroundings, we should not, in our wakefulness, be unconscious of our sleep. |
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K7MXE
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 151 City/Region: Eatonville
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: R-21 EC Tug
Vessel Name: Lois H
Photos: Lois H
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: Discount AIS from Shine Micro |
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I drove over to Port Ludlow Wa today and picked up my new class B
AIS. Heres the deal I got a twenty percent discount and that made the
AIS 800 dollars and another 25 for the gps puck. GPS puck for
25 is a good deal I thought. They programed it for me and looks like
only thing left to to program is my baud rate to the C80. This looks
like a easy install. Operation for sending positions or not is a simple
push button. Push for on and push again for off. Looks so far like even
I can run it. Bob Heselberg Eatonville Wa |
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timflan
Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 544 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Two Lucky Fish +1
Photos: Two Lucky Fish
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: Discount AIS from Shine Micro |
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K7MXE wrote: | I drove over to Port Ludlow Wa today and picked up my new class B
AIS. Heres the deal I got a twenty percent discount and that made the
AIS 800 dollars and another 25 for the gps puck. GPS puck for
25 is a good deal I thought. They programed it for me and looks like
only thing left to to program is my baud rate to the C80. This looks
like a easy install. Operation for sending positions or not is a simple
push button. Push for on and push again for off. Looks so far like even
I can run it. Bob Heselberg Eatonville Wa |
Good luck, Bob! We'll get you, me, and Merv out together and see if we can confuse the commercial traffic in the Puget Sound lanes. JUST KIDDING!
Assuming you're not already using the NMEA port on your C80, the baud rate should be the only "tricky bit". Let us know how that goes. _________________ Timothy R. R. Flanagan |
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Dene
Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 444 City/Region: Kalama
State or Province: WA
Vessel Name: Fear Naut & Terra-Sea-Ta
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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timflan wrote: | Actually, there are several AIS-on-the-web services. My current favorite is MarineTraffic.com, which I wrote about on Navagear. |
During our passage from Poulsbo to Seattle, I used this site to locate and identify the ships, in particular the ferrys. Very accurate. Good tool to use.
-Greg |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:10 am Post subject: AIS on the web |
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Tim,
Really good site, especially if you have access to Internet while you are running. Thanks for the link.
Harvey
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timflan
Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 544 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Two Lucky Fish +1
Photos: Two Lucky Fish
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Bad Boy
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 115 City/Region: Fresno
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Cat Fever
Photos: Cat Fever
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject: Furuno AIS |
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Has anyone used the Furuno FA30 AIS or know anyone that has? It looks like it will hook up to my existing Furuno NavNet system. |
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Dene
Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 444 City/Region: Kalama
State or Province: WA
Vessel Name: Fear Naut & Terra-Sea-Ta
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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That's a beautiful vessel. Is it in the Lake Washington canal? We passed a few with those striking colors today.
-Greg |
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timflan
Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 544 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Two Lucky Fish +1
Photos: Two Lucky Fish
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Dene wrote: |
That's a beautiful vessel. Is it in the Lake Washington canal? We passed a few with those striking colors today. |
Those are Western Towboats' colors. They've got a whole fleet of tugs large and small in these colors.
Here's their webiste: http://www.westerntowboat.com |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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So we are 2 years down the road here and I have just gone back and revisited this thread.
I am getting closer to a decision point and could use some updated info.
How are those of you who have the AIS liking them? Are you using them as much as you thought, or more, and are they as helpful as you wanted?
I had not much considered the stand alone (Like the Shine unit) but possibly now after going back and rereading it it may be in the running. On another thread, the Standard horizon GXT 2100 has been discussed, and that is actually where I was leaning. So now I would like to hear some comparisons of that system to the Shine unit particularly in use on the Raymarine C series units. Obviously, the Shine is a full AIS class B transceiver with the option to run in receive only mode, and the SH 2100 is only a receiver.
These units have been out and in use for awhile. Are they de-bugged? Are there tricks that you need to use to in order to get the most out of them.
Tim, thanks for your extensive reporting on the Shine.
The floor is now open for discussion. There is a parallel thread that includes the SHGX2100 in the discussion here:
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?p=180286#180286
Thanks for participating.
Harvey
SleepyC
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timflan
Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 544 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Two Lucky Fish +1
Photos: Two Lucky Fish
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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My Shine unit is running strong, but Shine seems to be focusing its efforts on the commercial/government market primarily. They've sort of disappeared from the recreational scene. They still offer the products, but it's not their top priority.
However, recreational boaters ARE Vesper Marine's top priority, and I am EXTRMELY impressed with their line of AIS receivers and Class B transponders. See what I wrote about their products last week: http://www.navagear.com/2010/11/vesper-marines-standalone-ais-products-ok-now-i-get-it/
Being a C-Dory owner, I was skeptical of the idea of a standalone AIS unit. Like I've got room for Yet Another Screen in my little 22! But as you'll see in the article I wrote, there is some pretty compelling reasoning behind Vesper's decision to offer only standalone units.
Another line I'm impressed with are the Digital Yacht products. Like Vesper, these folks are taking the basic AIS functionality and thinking seriously about how boaters might make use of it. I haven't written a lot about Digital Yacht, but I've got an article "in the pipeline" on their stuff. For now, you'll have to settle for this short item:
http://www.navagear.com/2010/07/digital-yacht-ais200n2k-at-panbo/
All that is not to say there is anything wrong with units from other brands. Heck, for receive-only AIS, even the cheap Milltech units seem to run fine.
In fact, I've still got a Milltech SR161 (single channel, receive only) that I'm not using. These are $189 new, and I'd let this one go for $150. You'll need a 9-pin serial cable to connect it, and you'll need an antenna to connect it to, so this is NOT "plug and play". But no AIS installation is! This is the one I had hooked up to my Raymarine C-80 when I first started experimenting with AIS. |
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Mike...
Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 470
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Almost done with installing the Garmin AIS xponder (I went all Garmin). Unfortunately, I won't be able to give you real-world feedback until next season. But, I am pretty jazzed about AIS.
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mike |
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El and Bill
Joined: 08 Nov 2003 Posts: 3200 City/Region: Lakewood, CO
State or Province: CO
C-Dory Year: 2000
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Halcyon
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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My iPhone has a dandy app - shipfinder. Combined with the GPS on the iPhone 4, I can see my location with regard to commercial vessels, and know their name and direction.
The app is free. _________________ El and Bill (former live-aboards)
Halcyon 2000 CD 22 Bought 2000 Sold 2012
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 7313 City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Captain's Choice II
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, just read up on shipfinder! Wish it were available for the android market but it isn't.
Jim B. why don't you have this one? Bet you do by the time the sun goes down!!
Charlie _________________ CHARLIE and PENNY CBRAT #100
Captain's Cat II 2005 22 Cruiser
Thataway (2006 TC255 - Sold Aug 2013)
Captain's Cat (2006 TC255 - Sold January 2012)
Captain's Kitten (1995 CD 16 Angler- Sold June 2010)
Captain's Choice (1994 CD 22 Cruiser- Sold Jun 2007)
Potomac River/Chesapeake Bay
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rogerbum
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 5922 City/Region: Kenmore
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Meant to be
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Captains Cat wrote: | Wow, just read up on shipfinder! Wish it were available for the android market but it isn't.
Jim B. why don't you have this one? Bet you do by the time the sun goes down!!
Charlie |
Charlie,
Ship finder is available for the Android but not for free - it costs $4.83 (2.99 british pounds). _________________ Roger on Meant to be |
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