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IdleUp
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 157 City/Region: Smith Mountain Lake
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BRAZO
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 650 City/Region: Full-time Travel
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:27 am Post subject: |
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That was amazing!! _________________ 2008 CD22 Twin 50hp
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IdleUp
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 157 City/Region: Smith Mountain Lake
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:32 am Post subject: |
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It's hard to imagine what we would all do in a life and death situation, this guy has to have nerves of steel! |
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 7313 City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: |
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I guess I didn't believe my eyes. In reading further on the same page, this video seems to say it's not real....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72y_qFV2oc
A good job in the video though.
Charlie _________________ CHARLIE and PENNY CBRAT #100
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rogerbum
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 5922 City/Region: Kenmore
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:53 am Post subject: |
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The video's a fake with a transition between a real plane and an RC replica. _________________ Roger on Meant to be |
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Sneaks
Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 2020 City/Region: San Diego (Encinitas)
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: |
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rogerbum wrote: | The video's a fake with a transition between a real plane and an RC replica. |
Agree, Roger. Here's one of the debunk sites.
Excellent fake, though it sure says a lot about the credibility of commercials
Don |
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Goater
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 10 City/Region: St. George
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Nice flair on final. If it was real it would be even better. I think if this had actually happened, that poor pilot would've been runway pizza. |
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IdleUp
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 157 City/Region: Smith Mountain Lake
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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It sure is - thanks for the update - someone posted it on our R/C forum.
Well I have one that ain't fake but it's R/C model so we know it's possible:
What do you guys think about this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsNIhBlyepc&feature=related |
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Sneaks
Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 2020 City/Region: San Diego (Encinitas)
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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IdleUp wrote: | It sure is - thanks for the update - someone posted it on our R/C forum.
Well I have one that ain't fake but it's R/C model so we know it's possible:
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I'll call and raise you one real aircraft doing it.
F-15 one wing landing
Incredible and the pilot didn't know it until he landed. |
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Da Nag
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 2828 City/Region: Port Angeles
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TomRay Dealer
Joined: 12 Aug 2008 Posts: 121 City/Region: Punta Gorda
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Something strange about that fake video, and I wonder if someone can explain it.
When the wing comes off, the plane starts spinning. OK, that's expected. But it starts spinning TOWARD the intact wing, as if somehow the OTHER side of the plane had a great deal more lift.
Weird. _________________ Gulf Island Sails |
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IdleUp
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 157 City/Region: Smith Mountain Lake
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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forgetting the fake landing - I see a wing come off that appears to be the real deal, what happened to that plane and the pilot? |
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TomRay Dealer
Joined: 12 Aug 2008 Posts: 121 City/Region: Punta Gorda
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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I think we saw that plane land, IdleUp, and it was a heck of a nice landing! Just wasn't a real plane.
I still can't figure out why it would spin the wrong way after the wing came off. Maybe just a really powerful engine for the airframe, and when the wing came off the rc pilot gunned it. I know that at low airspeed, you can't gun the engine on a P-51 Mustang. The wings aren't enough, and that huge prop will rotate the airplane.
The remaining wing should have caused a spin in the opposite direction from what is shown, so maybe it was trying to do so, but was overpowered by prop torque? Or maybe it was going so slow that the weight of the remaining wing just fell because gravity acting on it was stronger than the lift it was creating?
Color me confused. |
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IdleUp
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 157 City/Region: Smith Mountain Lake
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:08 am Post subject: |
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TomRay wrote: | I think we saw that plane land, IdleUp, and it was a heck of a nice landing! Just wasn't a real plane.
I still can't figure out why it would spin the wrong way after the wing came off. Maybe just a really powerful engine for the airframe, and when the wing came off the rc pilot gunned it. I know that at low airspeed, you can't gun the engine on a P-51 Mustang. The wings aren't enough, and that huge prop will rotate the airplane.
The remaining wing should have caused a spin in the opposite direction from what is shown, so maybe it was trying to do so, but was overpowered by prop torque? Or maybe it was going so slow that the weight of the remaining wing just fell because gravity acting on it was stronger than the lift it was creating?
Color me confused. |
Well at this point it's hard to tell what's real and what's not!
If you look at the video you'll see that after the wing separated the plane was totally in a stall - in fact, it was few seconds before the plane even built up any airspeed. if the pilot would have tried to keep the plane level,then as you say, it would normally turn in the direction of no lift, however, this plane was headed nose down. With the large ailerons used on these aerobatic planes, they have quite a bit of authority on spin direction. (with the remaining aileron)
Another factor is these stunt pilots (like our R/C models) perform knife edge flight as normal procedures during contest work and of course when the aircraft is in knife edge flight - the prop (large engine), the flat surface of the fuselage and the extra large rudder can now maintain level flight and on some aircraft, we can actually climb and even hover a plane today. |
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