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B~C



Joined: 31 Oct 2003
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City/Region: Bend
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 1999
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Blue~C
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sneaks, I have a full Sunbrella mooring cover. Wish I had one of those portable garrages instead. The cover is a lot like a truck canopy, when it's on, you wish it was off, when it's off, you wish it was on. It would be so much nicer to just back under a portable shelter........for sale, one mooring cover.

In the nice add on catagory, A Tims Custom Carpet kit for the V-berth. The carpet ( I should say Hull Linner, it's like carpet but is treated to handle moisture better and resist mold + it has more stretch to it than carpet) is not to dificult of a job and sure makes the V-berth more comfy.
A vent in the roof is a good addition also, it helps combat that rain forrest feeling in the morning

Me thinks the best addition is membership in the C-Brat internet yacht club...well worth the membership dues + you get to wear those cool blue blazers at the floatillas

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Sneaks



Joined: 06 Jun 2004
Posts: 2020
City/Region: San Diego (Encinitas)
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: C-Brat
Photos: Jenny B and C-Brat
PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B~C wrote:
Sneaks, I have a full Sunbrella mooring cover. Wish I had one of those portable garages instead. The cover is a lot like a truck canopy, when it's on, you wish it was off, when it's off, you wish it was on. It would be so much nicer to just back under a portable shelter........for sale, one mooring cover.


Unfortunately I have very limited space adjacent to my neighbor's trash shedding Mellaluca trees, otherwise I'd go for a portable garage too. I do have the short mooring cover, which keeps the rain and leaves out but affords no UV protection for the exposed hull. In fact, I only have 21 inches of space behind the lowered engine with the swingaway tongue clearing the sidewalk by about an inch. This fact was brought home to me with a bang yesterday when, in a disastrous Senior Moment, I backed in over the curb with the engine up to clear the curb and forgot to lower it before going any further. Now I get to repair an 18" hole in the stucco on my house and get a prop repitched and balanced. No damage to the boat/engine/trailer, just massive damage to the ego.

So the biggest C-Dory Add-on on my wish list now is a driveway extender. Angry Don'tcha hate the first bruise on a new boat?

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Robbi



Joined: 23 Mar 2004
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City/Region: Chambers Bay
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2023
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Photos: C-Run
PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan, you are right about propane putting moisture into the air. What is neat about this heater is that the combustion is isolated from the inside of the boat. The moisture is released outside of the boat by a unique vent pipe that is a "pipe within a pipe", one is intake and the other is the vent. The folks that I have talked to that have them on their boats really like them. You can use the small green propane canisters or a larger tank. I will use the smaller ones.

About the bimini top on the 19. When I fish, I just unhook the rear straps, and put the top against the back of the cabin roof. I strap it in place and it stays even when running. It may not look the best, but I like the versitility. (picture 20 in my album) I don't know if you can do that with the 22 and still use the door.

Hope to see you out on the water. Robbi

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Sea Wolf



Joined: 01 Nov 2003
Posts: 8650
City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the answer to the bimini/camperback question for fishermen who don't need a full enclosure protection, just direct rain and sun shielding, would be a hardtop cover extending back aft from the cabin roof without any vertical support rods or straps. I believe I can build one from large diameter schedule 40 PVC pipe laid along just inside the cabin handrails and extending out over the cockpit. The cover would be white translucent lexan, with an arch built in athwartships via shaped aircraft style cutout stringers (like those inside wings) extending between the two tubes. The dimensions have to be held down in order to be sure the structure doesn't interfere with fishing rod usage. It's on my project list, but there are some "must do" things that have to come first before the winter sets in good.

The Dickinson Propane Fireplace is vented outside via a double walled tube that both brings in fresh combustion air and vents the exhaust. Like all fueled heaters, propane combustion produces both water and carbon dioxide. In this heater, the exhaust is vented outside, thus no moisture build-up. All cabin heaters (except electric ones running off shore power, usually) should be vented outside the cabin to prevent carbon monoxide poisoning, get rid of the carbon dioxide (suffocation), and to prevent water build up inside the cabin ("wet cave effect". It's also impossible to navigate with steamed over windows and zero visibility. Any good vented heater is a Godsend in cold and/or inclement weather. Of the various fuels, alcohol produces the largest proportional amount of water to carbon dioxide because of its chemical make up.

The yellow/orange combustion color of the Dickinson Propane Fireplace seen through the clear glass door makes this heater a very good choice that provides a nice ambiance like any open fire.

There are many other discussion points regarding heater/fuel selection issues in the Library under the Cabin main heading and various subheadings. Joe.

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dan365



Joined: 17 Aug 2004
Posts: 69
City/Region: Port Orchard
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's amazing how much I learn here.

I love the looks of that propane heater/fireplace - wish I had known about this before I chose the Wallas - but still need that occasional cup of hot water to fix my cup of noodles.

Tim's carpet? Tell me more; is this to carpet the sidewalls? If so - I'm very interested.

Extended hardtop - I can't wait to see it! Your far handier than I if you are serious about fabricating this. Again - I can't wait to see your finished project.

I do tip my bimini forward while working the downriggers or landing a fish - have not considered strapping it down - thanks. Problem is that the factory (only negative I can think of) installed my GPS antenna at the back port corner of the cabin - not what I had asked for but can live with it. The bimini leans against it when leaned forward - this makes me somewhat uncomfortable with strapping the bimini down against it but without some way to secure it - turning into the wind will cause it to whip back.

By the way - while my Garmin GPS is giving me trouble - I would hate to be without it. I will have to fantasize about radar for a few years but the GPS is added to my must have list.

Thanks,

Dan
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Lynn Marie



Joined: 30 Oct 2003
Posts: 440
City/Region: Redmond
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 1997
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan,

For the carpet in the V-berth check my post in the interior section of the "Library". It's the best project I've done and plans are to do the main cabin top this winter.

Tim

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Anita Marie



Joined: 01 Nov 2003
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City/Region: Oak Harbor
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Anita Marie
Photos: Anita Marie and Little Buddy
PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When not in use I have added two additional brackets forward on the gunnel so I can store the frame out of the way when fishing/crabbing. We use the quick release fittings so it is very fast and easy to do. I wish I had a better photo but this is the best one I could find. Camperback frame
Robbin says the shelves under the sink and storage behind the sink are her favorite, girls.

Fred
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Casey



Joined: 02 Nov 2003
Posts: 1094
City/Region: The Villages(FL)
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: "Dessert 1st"
Photos: Dessert 1st
PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 5:15 pm    Post subject: Interesting Topic... Reply with quote

Let's see....

FLOORBOARDS: Glad we have them. Now when it's Happy Hour, if things are tipping I know it's me, and not the boat. We like them.

CHARTPLOTTER: Now days I figure most folks will have some kind of GPS, so I don't see that as an issue. RE Chartplotter, I find it Very useful, and I STRONGLY urge that you spend the extra bucks for a color screen. Look carefully at the new Garmin GPS/Chartplotter/Radar system coming out in FEB 2005 ( I own Raymarine stuff....). It will be great.

CAMPER BACK: We had King Canvas manufacture a slightly larger than normal camper back for us. Used it ever day. Great place to have coffee in the mornings, and happy hours in the evenings. We don't "fish" so it essentially doubles our living space. Very useful.

WALLAS: Seemed expensive, but it meant the difference between being chilly and Comfortable on some cruises. ...besides, I took it out of Sandy's allowance since it was for Her!

WINDLASS: Pretty handy, and permitted me to upsize the anchor, which allows me so sleep better at night. ...besides, I took it out of my allowance (since it was my back that would get strained!)

RADAR: Probably not critical, but when it's handy it's VERY handy; can mean the difference between getting to port or not. Besides, it's fun to track targets and plot shooting solutions. (Captain: "Target at 1300, 1000meters and closing!")

AUTO PILOT: I thought putting A/P on a C-Dory was a little over-the-top but what the heck. As it turned out, if I was to do it again it would probably be the FIRST toy installed rather than the last. I use it MUCH more than I thought. It relieves a considerable workload at the helm, and holds a course better than I can. On many of the longer passages this summer it was absolutely delightful to have it doing the work while I simply maintained a "watch." The slower you go, the more you'll like an auto pilot.

EPIRB: Not really necessary but it gives both Sandy and I a degree of comfort, knowing that if something "really bad" happens the Good Guys (USCG) can find us quickly. Cheap insurance.

Like I said - good topic.

Casey
C-Dory Naknek
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SeaSpray



Joined: 12 Mar 2004
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City/Region: Brentwood, CA
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SeaSpray
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All,
I got my CD22 at the end of Sept. I got the raymarine C80 system, autoplilot, the wallas and the camperback. Don't know what I would change but are adding the radar and planning on adding the windlass.

I have the st6001 raymarine autopilot and have have trouble since day one. Does anyone else have this unit?
When I set it to hold a compass heading (the Auto mode) it frequently will move the motor from side to side a few degrees. This is noticable as the bow moves right and left. But it does seem the hold the compass heading.
When I set it to go to a waypoint ( the Track mode) it does not follow the track very well. It seems to veer off to the left and then head back as we get close to the waypoint. I am trying to talk with Raymarine support by email.

Steve
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DaveS



Joined: 01 Nov 2003
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City/Region: Arlington
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Shift
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve,
You might try changing the "senstivity settings" on the auto-pilot. You can choose one of (I believe) 5 different settings. I have mine set at "3" and it seems to do fine.
In regards to your "tracking" problem......make sure that you don't have anything metal near your fluxgate compass. (Your fluxgate compass has probably been installed inside the rear bulkhead, under the Wallas stove, low near the floor). (I had problems after I installed some metal racks there). A flashlight in the door shelf under the stove, or pots and pans near the fluxgate can also be a problem and cause interference.
Let us know what you finally do that corrects the problems.

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SeaSpray



Joined: 12 Mar 2004
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C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaveS,
Thanks for the reply. In the Auto mode I have tried different settings for the response value. I seem to have the constant right - left movement of the motor with Hi and Lo values.

The problem is intermitant. It will stop for short periods when I adjust the motor trim but it always seems to come back.

These things take time to sort out since I only get out on weekends and then not every one.

You are right about the location of the compass. I will try removing all metal things in that area and testing it again.

Thanks,
Steve
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Pat Anderson



Joined: 02 Nov 2003
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City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
Photos: Daydream and Crabby Lou
PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:03 pm    Post subject: Re: CD Add Ons Reply with quote

Oh, yeah...as was pointed out in another thread - another important add-on is a warm and fuzzy dog! And an attitude!



Pat Anderson wrote:
VHF radio
GPS Color Chartplotter
Camperback
Windlass
Radar

Daydream has all of your favs [snip!]



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Patrout



Joined: 07 Feb 2004
Posts: 176
City/Region: NORTH POLE
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1983
C-Dory Model: 22 Classic
Vessel Name: C-FARER
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a great thread!

The Newport stove is carried by "Fisheries Supply" in two models and at lower prices than Dickenson. I haven't done business with these folks but have heard that they are reliable.

Pat
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Robbi



Joined: 23 Mar 2004
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City/Region: Chambers Bay
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2023
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just placed my order my newest "add-on", a Newport Propane Fireplace. I am so excited. Laughing Film at 11. Well, pictures in a few weeks.

My brother also got the same heater for his sailboat and he will finish putting it in tomorrow. Then, with his first hand experience, he will help me. I am so smart.

Robbi
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B~C



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That should be a nice addition. I think Stimpys Dad has one of those (where's he been hiding) and spoke glowingly of it.

I've pondered this before in the pub and got no answer- I've heard no mention of the use of Coast Guard approved propane lockers, are they not required on smaller boats?...anybody?
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