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Weeks away... 19' C-Dory Angler! 60 or 75 hp merc 4 cycle ?

 
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terakat



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Weeks away... 19' C-Dory Angler! 60 or 75 hp merc 4 cycle ? Reply with quote

Greetings to all!

After decades of running "heaps of ----" the wife and I... or, myself and the wife have decided to get a new boat, and am quite sleepless about the C-dory!

90% of the time this boat will be on a large freshwater lake in British Columbia, and on occasion we will plan a west coast trip on the salty and try and catch something besides a seal this time!

The 19' angler has a dry weight of 1650lbs. I figure it will be leaving the shore most times weighing between 2400 and 3000lbs.

First off...is economy, second, reality! I love trolling but dont want to spend the day going 9 knots at full throtle into a headwind. Because of my past luck with several mercs and the dealer network in the area I will probably stick with the merc.

I am coining between the new Mercury 60hp 4 cycle (weighing 247lbs) or the 75 hp 4 cycle tipping the scales at just under 400 lbs.

The gph of the 60 are very impressive! Though the merc factory rep and one of the C-dory factory techs think the 75hp merc would be a wiser
choice.

Before I have an anurism trying to figure which path to take, I am seeking counselling and wisdom from you C-brats as to what I might expect with the 60...? will performance no longer exist and have to pack an extra lunch and more beer to find shore or would going the 75hp route still give me good economy and provide me with the extra reserve?

Thank you for your time! This is a 'great' site!!
Regards, Terry
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Sea Wolf



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terry-

Amazingly enough, the 19 takes as much hp to move it around as does a 22 because of its smaller hull and associated reduced planing area.

Bill/DaNag had the very first 19 built, and, if I remember correctly, bought it with a 60, then subsequently changed to a 75 or 80 hp motor because the 60 simply wasn't enough power. Hopefully, he'll chime in here and point you to the original or a subsequent discussion. I know we had one within a few months of this very topic.

The thread "Would You Ever Repower a 22' With a 60 Horse Outboard ?" will basically answer your question.

My personal opinion is to buy the 75, or even the 90, if the weight is the same.

Joe. Teeth Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Joe. Go with the larger engine--and since the 75 and 90 are on the same block, I would favor the 90. At lower speeds you will not be able to measure the difference in fuel consumption between the 60 and 75. It seems pardoxical, but in many boats, the time to plane, the the lower planing speeds, actually get better fuel mileage with the larger engine.

It will be interesting to see what your boat actually weighs on a scale (wt of trailer subtracted) when it is fueled up and has the gear aboard. I suspect it will be more than you anticipate.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:39 pm    Post subject: get a 75 Reply with quote

When we bought the Duck cd-22 cruiser it had a 50 honda this was way underpowered unless you like running at red line 15mph at 5500 rpm
we sold the honda and we bought a 90 suzi best decision i've made regarding the boat .3500rpm =15mph the sweet spot is 4500rpm =22mph
5000rpm =25mph 5800rpm=32mph

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the owner of a C-Dory 19, I recommend at least a 75 and probably a 90 hp outboard. Our dealer recommended the Yamaha 90 and was absolutely correct. We have been very pleased with the performance and fuel consumption of the engine. Believe me, you will need the 90 and trim tabs when the boat is fully loaded. Good luck and enjoy!!
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terakat



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: Weeks away... 19' C-Dory Angler! 60 or 75 hp merc 4 cycle ? Reply with quote

Thank-you all for your replies,

As suspected, the big-dog wins, I just needed to hear it from seasoned vet's! The 75 will become the 'minimum standard' and I may even browse over the 90.

Again, Thank-you all for your excellent comments!

Regards,
Terry
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for the '90. Its just right... Very Happy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more vote for a 90. Robbi
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yamaha or Honda 90 with Permatrim. My 19 is powered with a Honda 90 with Permatrim and I don't need to drag the trim tabs for bow up down.
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