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dogon dory
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journey on
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OK, I'm confused. Waves do have a lot of energy, look what happens when they hit shore, especially a breakwater. And the motion of any single particle in a wave is circular, in the vertical plane. I got that. Also a spring, when it's compressed stores energy, and when it relaxes releases that energy. I also know that if you can develop differential motion, a spring between the horizontal fin and the hull can be compressed.
What's confusing me, is how in the middle of the ocean, where the period of waves can be fairly long, how does that fin get compressed? As the hull goes up so would the fin. In my experience the hull rides the wave, unless the slope is abrupt (big seas.) Also, in a calm, I guess you'd just sit there. To propel a boat of that size, you'd need some BIG springs,and they wouldn't compress easily. Just help lift the hull, I would think.
As to a dolphin, that tail doesn't absorb energy from a wave, it imparts energy, just as an oar does.Thus they can swim underwater, where there are no waves.
Anyway, if that guy can get enough energy out of open ocean waves to propel a boat across the ocean, I'm impressed. Power generation techniques have been proposed by anchoring cables to the bottom of the ocean, and letting wave driven floats provide the force and motion to generate electrical power; but that boat is free floating.
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B~C
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dotnmarty
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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do they make a nuclear powered 40 hp O/B?
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B~C
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| no but I'll bet if you replaced one of your 40 hp Honda powerheads with an electric motor and swapped out the other 40 hp honda power head with a generator that was powered by the prop...you could run forever..assuming you run twin honda 40's...you may be out of luck with the single |
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dotnmarty
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| I think Sark's 22 is already named E-fishin-C |
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starcrafttom
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Captains Cat
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| Pat Anderson wrote: | | I'm with Tom on this one, I don't get it...the wave hits the fins and...what? The videos on the other site all had the rider pumping away, again with some kind of muscle power, to move whatever was below the water line. It would seem like waves hitting a fin would not, you know, do anything...but of course they must. |
Think of the heavy boat as the rider, the up and down motion imparted by the waves does the work and the boat moves forward. No waves, no motion though....
C'mon guys, believe.... A bumble bee can't fly either, it violates the laws of aerodynamics...
Charlie
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| starcrafttom wrote: | Dog you have the idea but not all the facts. follow this link and read for your self. I subscribe to this and get a copy every month. Some very good reading.
http://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis.asp |
Tom – that was a great article, should be required reading.
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starcrafttom
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| Dave , if you go back to that link you can view at all the guest speakers monthly articales all the way back to the 70's. Lots of good reading. Last month was on why the canadian health care system is failing and is not a good model for us or them. |
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| Quote: | | .... I'll bet if you replaced one of your 40 hp Honda powerheads with an electric motor and swapped out the other 40 hp honda power head with a generator that was powered by the prop...you could run forever..assuming you run twin honda 40's...you may be out of luck with the single |
I think that one would be called: Propetual Mo -C-ion
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