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mbwf



Joined: 28 Jul 2008
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City/Region: West Chester
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C-Dory Model: R-21 Tug
Vessel Name: Tugger Toy
PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets agree - that we can't all agree or be right!

Remember - No Rules - Just be nice. That's what keeps many of us coming back to this forum everyday . . .
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jzfish



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:19 am    Post subject: Finding the right boat Reply with quote

IdleUp, I too looked at the 21EC and thought it offered a lot of features for the size but in the end it wasn't the right boat for my current lifestyle (Wife 3 kids 2 dogs & limited time on the water due to long hours at work). There are a lot of boats out there and I think you need to find one that suits your needs instead of picking apart the Ranger 21EC and upsetting all these fine folks. They are proud owners who knew what they were purchasing and decided it worked for them. They are here to discuss ways to maintain, improve and enjoy these boats and I think bashing a boat they own is not in the spirit of this forum. Like I said there are a lot of boats to choose from and they all have different compromises due to size, power, hull design etc. I decided the CD 22 will be better for me at this time. Maybe you would be interested in the Pompano 21 by Atlas Boat Works. Another inboard diesel powered boat with a higher cruise & top speed. Not a better boat just different but it might work for you looking at what you say you want in a boat. (More speed simpler cabin better seating in cabin etc).

Good luck in finding a boat that is right for you.
John
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BrentB



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree.

Since Ranger made some improvements with EC model, they are open to suggestions from boaters.

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IdleUp



Joined: 06 Sep 2008
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City/Region: Smith Mountain Lake
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C-Dory Model: R-25 Tug
Vessel Name: Linda Sue
PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My apologies to the board and its members - I was only trying to express my feelings and the reason I personally decided to pass on the R21. Some members started slinging mud and I just threw it back. I should have just backed off and let the thread move down.

Like I said, I think the R21 is one of the cutest picnic/work boats out there in its size. Criticism and conversation like this that makes boats better and better each year - I'm sure the improvements they made to the ec model was a direct result of customer requests and a few complaints. Regardless, of the fact I stepped on some toes which I regret - the points I mentioned really are valid - and would drastically improve the R21.

Best Regards!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you consider a 21' Parker 2120 or 220 Defiance pilothouse or longer versions. There are many 25' Parker on the market.
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IdleUp



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brent wrote:
Did you consider a 21' Parker 2120 or 220 Defiance pilothouse or longer versions. There are many 25' Parker on the market.


Brent,

I drove up by Mechanicsville,Va a few weeks ago and looked over the Parkers - they seem to be very well built boat with plenty of room. I'm not sure I want to go back to an outboard though.

My problem now is the little R21 with it's fit / finish in a picnic style boat has me spoiled - does anyone make a R21 look alike that's larger. I need the large open aft deck for what I'm doing with it, but I'm not to happy with the looks of the fishing / lobster type boats.

Thanks
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BrentB



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is your opinion of these boats?
http://acadia25.com/
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Ron Cowan



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brent---Idleup
I was about to suggest the Acadia also since it does not look quite as fishing-lobster as the pompano. Having been aboard an Acadia, if money was not an issue for an old retired guy, I would sell my Ranger 21 and buy an Acadia. It has most of the same look with the right additions added to the increased size. Several engine options are available to address the speed and or fuel burn issues. Ron

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IdleUp



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brent wrote:
What is your opinion of these boats?
http://acadia25.com/


Brent,

Thanks for the tip on the ACADIA 25 - I just spoke to the factory for around 30 minutes. They seem to have a special boat and have been building them for some time now. The base price is around 100K with a Yanmar 180. At first site it looks like it might be a good pleasure/ work boat for us.

I appreciate the help!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great

add a penny to the tip jar
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron Cowan wrote:
Brent---Idleup
I was about to suggest the Acadia also since it does not look quite as fishing-lobster as the pompano. Having been aboard an Acadia, if money was not an issue for an old retired guy, I would sell my Ranger 21 and buy an Acadia. It has most of the same look with the right additions added to the increased size. Several engine options are available to address the speed and or fuel burn issues. Ron


Hi Ron

I have not been on one yet. What is your opinion?
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IdleUp



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brent wrote:
great

add a penny to the tip jar


Will do . . .

While the factory told me they only build boats as they are ordered - I googled it and found quite a few for sale on the Internet.

Thanks again!
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TomRay
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been on a couple of Acadia 25's, since they are built right down the road a bit in Cape Coral. Nice boats! More plain than a Ranger, not as fancy in terms of trim and outfitting, which probably makes it a bit more appropriate for IdleUp's needs. I also like how Atlas Boatworks keeps everything pretty simple to work on, nothing hidden. I know one guy here who has owned one for several years. He's not using it much due to health and family issues, but has been well pleased with the boat.
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Ron Cowan



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brent,
Have only been aboard the Acadia sitting on a trailer so can not comment on ride or handling. Was very impressed with the straight forward approach to everything and appearance of ease of maintaince. The plain approach as mentioned in the other post is more like a C-Dory and Ranger 21. Sounds crazy but with the money I would take one in a minute. Ron
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks Ron and Tom
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