Ranger Tug 21ec - My Observation!

IdleUp · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject:

Ok, it’s clear to see that you guys are only going to look at it your way!
Hey, I’m 60+ years old, I’m not in the shrimp business or pulling traps, I wanted the boat for enjoyment and COMFORT. If I was 40 years old again, I might be able to put up with it, but I’m not. I’m not going to try to squeeze in that 5” of space between the seat and that cabinet. Nor fumble around with that make-shift fold down device they came up with. I don’t like my knees jammed up against the wheel, I don’t using my bunk as a foot-stool, nor am I going to ask my better half to perch on top of a plywood cushion sitting partly on a stove and the sink. Read my lips, “the cabin is too small” the boat needs a re-design and another foot in the beam to make it work.
Regarding the engine – half the posts on this forum are guys crying about the slow speed – so it’s not like I’m bringing up anything new here. It does not make sense to run that little engine wide-open to do 8 mph. The engine is too SMALL for the boat. If you’re bucking a current and or a sea you’ll be doing only around 3-4 mph. That is unsafe as a bay boat in anyone’s book.
Regarding the fuel economy & trawlers – I’ve owned a Mainship 39 - Pilot 34 and a Pilot 30, so I’m pretty up to date on what they burn. As I mentioned, when I put my 34 or 30 in gear and raised the engine to high idle, around 1000 rpm - the semi-displacement hull would slip through the water at 6-8 mph and burn around ½ gallon per hour per hour.

For all the experts who told me I was wrong with my numbers - I have an image of a certified test of the 34 keep in mind, my boat was considerable lighter than this boat. Also keep in mind that this boat weights around 1500 lbs – now do you believe the R21 is not fuel efficient?

Base price w/ Yanmar 6LP-STE Diesel (300 HP) $147,900
Street Price $120-125,000

drjohn71a · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject:

Idle Up... There ya' go! A Mainship! You are where you want/need to be.

No amount of carping will make a 21 foot, tiny tug into a 39 foot Mainship.

No engineer can economically make a 21 foot tiny tug into a the cubic foot of the boat you post!

So, Enjoy! I bet you can get a pretty good deal on a 39 foot Mainship right now!

John

ps, Ppl who want a bigger boat with a bigger engine are welcome to buy just that. What we're holding onto is that other ppl have the right to choose a small, narrow boat with small engine and cabin. It does not seem reasonable for a person who wants a bigger, more powerful boat to gripe about a comany's making a smaller, narrower, lowered powered boat. Maybe you should write Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, Mercury and Johnson to gripe about their making engines 40 hp and under.

Just choose a boat with the size and power you want and be happy.

IdleUp · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:15 pm Post subject:

drjohn71a · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject:

Idle Up,

Sure, you can OCCASIONALLY run a Mainship at that slow speed, but you cannot limit the operation of the larger engine to that low rpm without shortening it's life. It is designed to operate for long periods in the higher rpm range. It is DESIGNED, powered, propped, shaped, etc., for a different purpose.

John

20dauntless · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject:

IdleUp,

First, why don't you keep the Mainship?

Second, what boats besides the R21 are you looking at?

IdleUp · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:23 pm Post subject:

By the way John thanks for confirming my point about weather with your image below - using your own words:

"Trying to beat the storms to La Conner"

Are you doing more than 8 mph trying to outrun those storms?

By the way, how much fuel do those dual Honda's burn per hour?

IdleUp · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject:

dotnmarty · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject:

OK, you don't want the Ranger 21. Thanks for stopping by.

Captains Cat · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject:

I'd like to see you put that Mainship puppy on a trailer and take it Lake Powell! Or Smith Mountain Lake for that matter!! Wink

Charlie

IdleUp · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject:

Captain Cat - Read the posts . . .

thataway · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject:

This has become comical--The guy doesn't like the R 21--he trolls for responses.
He doesn't seem to understand the concept of a "trawler"--or slow speed economical displacement boat; the concept of length waterline and HP needed to move a boat, or specific fuel necessary to achieve hp.

I agree--go get another Mainship Pilot (not a trawler).

IdleUp · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject:

Ok, now your saying a Mainship is not a Trawler right ?

That explains everything!

IdleUp · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject:

IdleUp · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject:

Captains Cat · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: