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Grumpy
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 1606 City/Region: Whidbey Is
State or Province: WA
Vessel Name: Kingfisher II
Photos: Kingfisher
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: Oracle Speaks |
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For those in the PNW wondering who just passed them at 30 Kts plus, try this website:-
http://bmworacleracing.com/en/index.html?track.refer=
Merv _________________ 2006 CD-22 Kingfisher Sold Jan 08.
1987 Arima SeaChaser 17, Sea Star. Sold May 2010
2008 RF246 Kingfisher II Sold Apr 2013 |
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BaseCampAnne
Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 169 City/Region: San Diego/Anacortes
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SEA COASTER
Photos: SEA COASTER
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: Wow!!! |
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I have a sudden desire, make that need, to spend a few days in the Anacortes area watching for this incredible sailing beauty! I checked the website and didn't find much except they expect to be in the area till sometime around the middle of the month.
Anyone heading up to check this out?
Anne |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20861 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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There were some stats on Scuttlebutt yesterday. The down wind sail area is 3 foot ball fields of sail cloth! I would love to see this Puppy sail! _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
KA6PKB
Home port: Pensacola FL |
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Grumpy
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 1606 City/Region: Whidbey Is
State or Province: WA
Vessel Name: Kingfisher II
Photos: Kingfisher
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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I want to see them get through Deception Pass.
Spotted them from about 10 miles away (yes they are that BIG) on Tuesday but have had no chance to get up there since. Maybe this weekend (but I have to admit if there are Orcas, they will win).
Fantastic technology.
Merv |
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colobear
Joined: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 2154 City/Region: Denver
State or Province: CO
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Photos: C-Cakes
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:18 am Post subject: |
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I was out on a Coast Guard Auxiliary patrol in Rosario straits yesterday and spotted the oracle boat about two miles away, got as close to it as I could, (it was surrounded by perimeter boats about 100yds away to keep a protected zone around the boat). The hulls were almost invisible they're so slim but the mast looked, as my other crewmember said, "like an oil derrick at sea". It had a single tightly reefed mainsail that looked almost completely rigid and was being towed by a small boat at about 15kts. Quite a sight. The hull paint is very interesting. From the side it appears dark blue with a raked bow until you look more closely and see that the bow extends about 8ft beyond the apparent dark blue prow and is painted an off white. Not sure just why but it sure is deceiving. The boat is actually about 8ft further along than it appears to be. Hmmm? Some racing trick maybe?? _________________ Patti and Barry
formerly C-Cakes, now
rving around N. America |
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Alyssa Jean
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2375 City/Region: Guemes Is.(Anacortes)
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: Alyssa Jean
Photos: Anna Leigh and Alyssa Jean
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: |
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On our return yesterday from the Broken Islands, we were coming across Haro Straite and we saw, as Barry described it, what looked like an extremely tall derrick. We were 6-8 miles away at this point. As we got closer and at a different angle it was actually a tri hulled craft. It followed us through the "Cattle Point". When we tied up at Skyline I found out what she was. _________________ David and Kate
Alyssa Jean 16 Angler
Anna Leigh 22 Cruiser Sold 2005
Anna Leigh 25 Cruiser Sold 2014
K7KJR C-Brats #51 |
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TomRay Dealer
Joined: 12 Aug 2008 Posts: 121 City/Region: Punta Gorda
State or Province: FL
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: Oracle Speaks |
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What a radical boat!
I used to own a Corsair F-27, a pretty fast boat which seems very tame by comparison. Now I get my kicks in a Hobie Adventure Island trimaran kayak. Get that thing above 8 knots and it feels dangerously fast!
If you want to see a really radical design, check out Sailrocket
They have a crazy proa-inspired craft, and want to break 50 knots (if they can keep it intact through a test run). Fun to watch. _________________ Gulf Island Sails |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Should be a hell of an America's Cup to watch!
No more slow, boring, tactical racing.
With closing speeds like 30 mph, depending on the venue and wind, there will be some tight calls to make with no room to make an error that results in a collision.
I'd like to hear the story behind the design, engineering, and construction of that boat!
Joe. _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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Grumpy
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 1606 City/Region: Whidbey Is
State or Province: WA
Vessel Name: Kingfisher II
Photos: Kingfisher
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Think of all the downriggers etc you could get on that thing!
Where do you store the fish/crabs/prawns etc.....
Want to try standing on deck at 40 Kts apparent wind ??
Where is the porta potty?
How do you drill holes in that core ?
Where does the kicker go ?
What size truck to trailer it ?
So many questions... Two sails or one..... the mind boggles, and only $10M.
Damn!
Merv |
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TomRay Dealer
Joined: 12 Aug 2008 Posts: 121 City/Region: Punta Gorda
State or Province: FL
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | there will be some tight calls to make with no room to make an error that results in a collision. |
No kidding. Think about the rules for room at the mark. If one of those overlaps another and calls for room at the mark, is the other helmsman even close enough to hear over the blast of wind at those speeds? And if he is, how wide is one of those things? It's going to need a LOT of room at the mark!
Couple that with the fact that there's no such thing as an experienced driver of one of these, and it's a high stakes, high profile race. If there's good wind, we may see what one looks like upside down, and it wouldn't surprise me all that much to see a collision.
The high drama of light air racing in monohulls loses something in the transition to television. It can be exciting, even on slow cruising boats, but only if you're a participant. These races won't be boring to watch! |
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tom&shan
Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 316
Photos: Dakota
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Sea Wolf wrote: | Should be a hell of an America's Cup to watch!
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Last I read the lawyers were fighting it out in court to see if the boat can be used in an America Cup race. The article I read said the lawyers were billing enough hours to buy their own boats. Big boats, big bucks, and even bigger egos. |
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 7313 City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Captain's Choice II
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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That's not an "America's Cup"!! Give them all identical boats, make them switch boats between races and let the best sailor win, not the boats!
Charlie (Take that!!) _________________ CHARLIE and PENNY CBRAT #100
Captain's Cat II 2005 22 Cruiser
Thataway (2006 TC255 - Sold Aug 2013)
Captain's Cat (2006 TC255 - Sold January 2012)
Captain's Kitten (1995 CD 16 Angler- Sold June 2010)
Captain's Choice (1994 CD 22 Cruiser- Sold Jun 2007)
Potomac River/Chesapeake Bay
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Doryman
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 3807 City/Region: Anacortes
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Lori Ann
Photos: Lori Ann
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Bring back the J-Boats, I say!
Warren _________________ Doryman
M/V Lori Ann
TomCat 255, Hull #55, 150 Yamahas
Anacortes, WA
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20861 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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There have been quite a few large multi hulls, including many larger than this vessel, but she is so light, so much sail area and so high tech that I am sure she will be faster---if she hold together. Remember that as they first sailed they basically "powered up" the boat, starting with a double reefed main only. There will be strain guages in all of the rigging, and many places in the hull to see what the loads are.
Even larger is 131 foot Banque Populaire V, at 40 meters (over 130 feet) was launched this last week also. She is also powering up--with similar issues a Or
Other large multi hulls include Orange II, which is over 125 feet long, Cheyene about 125 feet, Play Station 120 feet, Gitana 13, over 100 feet, Geronimo 110 feet, our own Tom Cat owning Georgs Kolesnikovs sailed a 60 foot Tri from New York to San Franscisco setting a record for the passage. Dennis Conner's Starts and Strips at 60 feet raced in the Americas cup (sure these are small vessels, but many of the same techniques prevail).
I agree, the America's cup has really lost interest for me. We had our boat in Newport, RI for the 1983 cup and knew a number of the crew members, so it was a very exciting time for us... But with the huge budgets, well over 200 million dollars, this type of sailing is out of touch with reality and the majority of sailors. |
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Fun Patrol
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 75 City/Region: Hemet
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1989
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Fun Patrol
Photos: Fun Patrol
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