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terraplane
Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 524 City/Region: chesapeake bay
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: R-25 Tug
Vessel Name: BANJO
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:34 am Post subject: head odors |
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Though i religiously pump out (every week) and use the holding tank very little...almost entirely urine.....there is a decided odor which occurs when i flush the head...a gassy odor.
I also fill the holding tank sometimes with fresh water and let it swish around for a day to clean sides of tank.
I use the standard West Marine holding tank stuff.
Suggestions?
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matt_unique
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 1881 City/Region: Boston
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C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: head odors |
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terraplane wrote: | Though i religiously pump out (every week) and use the holding tank very little...almost entirely urine.....there is a decided odor which occurs when i flush the head...a gassy odor.
I also fill the holding tank sometimes with fresh water and let it swish around for a day to clean sides of tank.
I use the standard West Marine holding tank stuff.
Suggestions?
terraplane |
Yikes...what you have done above is just what was suggested to me. Although I think it was Bad Boy who suggested the problem also lies in a small vent line. _________________ Captain Matt
Former owner of Napoleon (Tomcat) Hull #65 w/Counter Rotating Suzuki 150's. |
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lloyds
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 1724 City/Region: sublimity
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C-Dory Year: 1996
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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If you are flushing with salt water it is almost always the flush water line. Stuff grows in the salt water intake line and as you flush you pump it into the head. Sulfur smell. If you go to boat brokers and look at the boats on the water and smell that smell in the head, that is usually what it is. West Marine, and others, used to sell a little kit that put a "T" in the intake line with a small bottle of treatment screwed to it that metered out as you flushed. I found that the best solution was just to flush a lot and keep the critters from taking up residence in the seawater line. Only exception was the one time a candlefish got sucked into the incoming line. Could not figure out why the flush was locked up. |
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matt_unique
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 1881 City/Region: Boston
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C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: Salt vs. Fresh |
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The salt water would definitely make stinky! I'm not aware of any C-Dory's that have a raw water intake for the flush. Unless they accidentally pour salt water into the fresh water holding tank or something. |
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Grumpy
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 1606 City/Region: Whidbey Is
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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lloyds,
Never thought of that. I don't have the problem (yet) and I wonder if it is due to the fact that the thru-hull valve for the raw water intake is always open when I haul the boat and therefore the salt water drains out of it which I assume will kill any critters. Can't speak for other boat configurations but this might be a point for those who trailer to open the sea cock and drain the intake. (Don't try it with the drain )
Merv _________________ 2006 CD-22 Kingfisher Sold Jan 08.
1987 Arima SeaChaser 17, Sea Star. Sold May 2010
2008 RF246 Kingfisher II Sold Apr 2013 |
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Alasgun Guest
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:13 pm Post subject: Head Odors |
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That's odd Matt as I don't know of a C-dory that does NOT use a raw water flush! Our 25 comes in the sea cock and either goes to the wash down or the head.
On to this stink thing, we boat exclusively in the salt, use the head for a lot more than urine and are very happy with the system. We learned early on how to stay happy with the system.
The only additive we like is the West Marine Mint version, the others contribute to their own funky smell.
As a trip comes to a close we will dump the tank (yep - in the ocean) and travel a ways with the sea cock handle open and the toilet valve in the wet bowl position. This will fill your holding tank with little or no effort and with a little practice you will figure it out. Pay attention to how full the bowl is and shut the sea cock if it gets close to the rim, only takes a second and the water is gone and you can open er up again. It's more a function of speed and we find that at 18 knts everything works fine.
Fill that holding tank and slosh er a bit before dumping it again (in the ocean). We do this twice before taking the boat out and once home I do the same thing twice with fresh water. The last time I leave the tank full and add 2 oz of the mint stuff and just leave the thing sit full till the next trip. Lack of oxygen prevents funny growth!. Ive been using this method for the last 3 years and I would chalange anyone to smell my head!
It's a lot simpler than most folks make it.
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lloyds
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 1724 City/Region: sublimity
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Probably not a problem on trailered boats because all the water in the line does drain out. But a definite problem for any boat left in the water for more than a few weeks that flushes with raw water, and doesn't get flushed often. If I left one of my boats for a couple weeks, when I got back and flushed it smelled. I had to flush a lot to get rid of it. |
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matt_unique
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 1881 City/Region: Boston
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: Head Odors |
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Alasgun wrote: | That's odd Matt as I don't know of a C-dory that does NOT use a raw water flush! ....
Mike |
Wild....on my Tomcat the water for the flush comes from the fresh water holding tank. The only raw water intake I have is for the washdown pump in the cockpit. I thought I saw the same setup on the C-25's I looked at. |
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GxK
Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 124 City/Region: Frenchman's Bay, Lake Ontario
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Head Odors |
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matt_unique wrote: | Alasgun wrote: | That's odd Matt as I don't know of a C-dory that does NOT use a raw water flush! ....
Mike |
Wild....on my Tomcat the water for the flush comes from the fresh water holding tank. The only raw water intake I have is for the washdown pump in the cockpit. I thought I saw the same setup on the C-25's I looked at. |
Hmmm . . . I guess there is no consistency in the C-Dory family. On my TomCat, the head flushes with seawater while the galley and washdown are fed from the freshwater tank.
--Georgs _________________ Georgs Kolesnikovs
TomCat 24 At Last!
Puffin Saco 12 Finally!
Frenchman's Bay, Lake Ontario
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matt_unique
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 1881 City/Region: Boston
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Head Odors |
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GxK wrote: | matt_unique wrote: | Alasgun wrote: | That's odd Matt as I don't know of a C-dory that does NOT use a raw water flush! ....
Mike |
Wild....on my Tomcat the water for the flush comes from the fresh water holding tank. The only raw water intake I have is for the washdown pump in the cockpit. I thought I saw the same setup on the C-25's I looked at. |
Hmmm . . . I guess there is no consistency in the C-Dory family. On my TomCat, the head flushes with seawater while the galley and washdown are fed from the freshwater tank.
--Georgs |
Interesting...I was reading an older thread where someone else mentioned their washdown was plumbed to the fresh water holding tank.
I assume they installed a valve for your flush intake similar to what I have for the washdown? |
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8553 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Tom, my friend, that question is what is known in boxing circles as "leading with your jaw"! There is a one word answer: AIRHEAD!!!! _________________
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