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Doryman



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject: Curing 4200 on vertical surface? Reply with quote

I'm considering using 4200 to mount some wood to the inside of the cabin of the TC and then screwing hooks, etc. to the wood. I think I remember reading here about some kind of tape that will hold the wood, etc. in place while the 4200 cures but I have not been able to search successfully for that thread (BTW using Google to search this site works very well!) I did find one guy who used his boat hook to hold the wood in place, and I can do that if necessary, but I would prefer the tape solution -- if it actually exists.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warren, I am thinking of doing the same thing and had planned to use the boat hook method. I have tried masking tape and package tape but I don't think I would trust either. I know Paul (JC Lately) has used with good success, a Very High Bond, double stick tape that I belive is a 3M product.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fusor #171 clear double sided tape made by Lord works very well for holding
to smooth surfaces, ie: gelcoat, etc. It is tenacious and will take some effort
to remove the item. However once removed the tape will roll up, here again,
with a little effort and will not leave a mark or any tape residue on the gel-coat or surface. It won't work well on the rougher surface of the cabin
interior. For example, I used it to adhere a block of Tyboo's famous plastic
wood to the exterior of the bulkhead on my CD to mount the remote control
holder for my auto pilot in 2004. It is still there and as solid as the day I
put it on. I picked up the tape at an auto detail supply house. Among
other things it is used to attach moulding to vehicles/

I have some small shelving units which I put up with 4200 that go between
the windows on the inside of the cabin for small stuff. I simple propped those
up with a 2"x4" cross cabin overnight and that was easy and worked well. (Pics in album)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why 4200 rather than 5200, which a better adhesive?

What we did with some light stuff (the tracks for our curtains) was to use a couple of strategically placed dabs of hot glue from an ordinary hot glue gun to hold it up while the 5200 cured...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To mount wood to the rough surfaces I've used thicken 5 minute epoxy and it works really well. You can hold the item in place for a few minutes and it sets rather quickly. Just be certain to mix the epoxy before you add the thickening agent. The epoxy doesn't bond well or at all to plastic or starboard.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always cut brace peices which either go between the piece being 5200nd to the table, counter below or across to the other side. Cut prior to wedge it in tightly , and then glue it and wedge it for the night.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Several people have mentioned using 5200 for cabin accessories but in other threads I have read advice to use 4200 unless one needs the superior strength of 5200 -- mostly because of the ease of removing 4200 compared to 5200.

So, let's say I want to put up on the rough surface of the cabin interior a block of wood onto which I will mount a fire extinguisher or something similar. 4200, 5200 or epoxy?

Warren
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warren,
For something as heavy as a fire extinguisher, I would go with epoxy. 5200 would probably be ok if your bock of wood has a large enough surface area. The stress of the weight will have a tendency to shear or peel the wood from the surface, especially in rough water.

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