wiper motor for cd-25

bcarli · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject: wiper motor for cd-25

Hello
My wiper motor died yesterday so I need a new one. The model that cdory installed on my c-dory 25 is a AFI 36181 with an 80 degree arc. It seems a very common wiper motor is an AFI 1000, which I think is the exact same motor except its arc is 110 degrees. So I'm wondering if there is any reason not to purchase the 1000. I remember reading somewhere on the c-brat page that a member changed their setting from 80 to 110 degrees and it worked better.
Thanks for the help
where is a good place to buy a AFI 1000, west marine?

T.R. Bauer · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:30 pm Post subject:

Do remember a good starter/alternator/generator shop can probably rebuild your wiper motor. It would save you a ton - and probably be just as good as getting a new one. I had a starter rebuilt on my yamaha motorcycle that went out and they wanted around 500 dollars for a new one. I took it to an electrical shop and they breathed new life into it for about 75 bucks. The rebuild lasted longer than the bike did.

Sea Wolf · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject:

Try this source:

Go2Marine

(The first listing is AFI 36180. Call Go2Marine and see in what way it is different than 36181.)

Joe. Teeth

journey on · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject:

Try this site: Marinco/AFI Wipers . Supplier page for AFI wipers with excruciating detail. Looks like they're interchangeable, and the basic difference is the factory setting for sweep angle.

Boris

Dora~Jean · Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:42 am Post subject:

When I added my center wiper I couldn't get an exact match either to the AFI's already installed. Bought nearest type (long shaft), adapted it fine, changed the internal settings for best sweep angle. I would tend to believe all AFI's have that changeable internal sweep angle design.

Sea Wolf · Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:24 am Post subject:

T.R.Bauer-

A close comparison of the specifications of the 36180 and the 36181 models on the AFI website Boris notes, lists identical characteristics except that the 36181 is an

"OEM bulk pack not for public sale"

meaning it's a box of several 36180's to be sold to boat manufacturers for Original Equipment from the Manufacturer installation on new boats.

So no difference, buy the 36180!

Problem solved.

Joe. Teeth

T.R. Bauer · Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject:

Sounds like a great idea - except it is bcarli that needs one. But, when mine goes out, I will remember your suggestion.

Sea Wolf · Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject:

Alyssa Jean · Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject:

I changed my settings. You have to pull the motor off and take off the cover. Inside you can change the sweep by adjusting a cam to 3 different setting.

bcarli · Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject:

did you change your setting to 110 degrees?

starcrafttom · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:02 pm Post subject:

ok I need help. I am trying to pull my off and can't get the arm off. How does that thing come off?? does it come off the motor end or the wiper end and how?

Sea Wolf · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:12 am Post subject:

Tom-

There are various types, and the manufacturer's deliberately make the parts non-interchangeable.

The arm slips over the round knurled piece. The knurled piece comes off with a set screw, but stays on until you have the arm off.

Check with a small mirror to see if there's a small catch clip on the underside part of the arm that fits over the knurled piece. If so, it will have to be released while applying pressure to raise the arm.

If there's no catch, it's probably just a tight pressure fit. The key will be to pry the base of the arm away from the round knurled part.

They make special tools for this (see below), but you can do it like I'll describe next.

Put two wooden blocks under the arm and against the glass windshield to provide leverage to pry and for protection for the glass.

Use two screwdriver blades or something else to apply even leverage to force the arm up off the knurled piece.

Don't force anything until several other C-Brats have read this and added their own comments. There could be something I'm forgetting or that could be different about your particular wiper arms.

The wiper parts are a known PITA to work on. The problem is you forget how to do it and/or they change the design on you.

Joe. Teeth

Three wiper arm removal tools (shows what leverage and force in required):

JamesTXSD · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:36 am Post subject:

When I had to replace a wiper motor, the arm was so corroded I had to cut it off. Before installing the new motor, I changed the arc to 110º (better coverage and it parks to the side completely out of the way), and put some white lube on the teeth before installing the new wiper arm. I don't know if this will make a difference when the wiper arm has to be pulled off next time, but the original job was a real PITA.

Joe's suggestion of the battery terminal puller is great. On the mount/arm on our boat, there were two set screws (one hid well underneath) that had to be loosened.

Best wishes,
Jim B.

Alyssa Jean · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:02 am Post subject:

Yes I changed it to 110 degrees.

starcrafttom · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject:

I will try again tonight but it does not look like there is a cover that comes of. I would hate to break the dam thing but it has to come of. there are no set screws so its most likely a pressure fit. Next question is can I fix the motor? it want to run and move a little but not much. I hope to rebuild it or free it up. if not I will replace it, more boat bucks.