Salt away

mwilson · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: Salt away

Does anyone know if this product will remove long term salt deposits? Will fresh water use do it as well?

I bought my boat from a salt water site and have flushed it in fresh water many times but notice the cooling stream is not as strong on one motor. Wonder if a salt build up would do this.

Impellers were changed 50 or so hours ago so they should be ok.

???? Thanks in advance for any info, Michael

Wandering Sagebrush · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: Cooling Stream

Before you get too wound up with Salt Away, I recommend that you check the orifice on the motor that has the weaker stream. It is not uncommon to have a spider or some such other critter get in there and make a nest that either stops or limits the flow.

Others may chip in on this one, but I also believe that the flow of water out the "pee" hole is not really an indicator of how much water is flowing through the engine, but rather an indicator that there is cooling going on. Apologies in advance if this belief is hogwash.

Steve

CAVU · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject:

Agree with Steve. One of my twin Hondas will get a weak stream a couple times each season. Whatever debris is causing it is farther upstream than the hose. If I pull the hose off and run a small wire in the orifice on the block then the stream will be fine for a long time. Sometimes I have to do this twice a year. No idea what causes it.

mwilson · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 12:26 am Post subject: Salt away

Thanks Ken, Steve I'll try a deeper probe see if I can get better flow. mbw

DaveS · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject:

Michael,
Here is the quick fix that I have used very successfully when all of the other methods have failed, therefore this is my first choice if I've got the equipment available. While the engine is running (being flushed with water of course), take an air compressor, with a narrowed tip on the hose end and blast air into the pee hole. Whatever is in there will probably be blown out your exhaust, so you'll never see what the foreign body obstruction was. I've tried this without the engine running (being flushed) and had no success, but when I was circulating water with the engine running it made all the difference!

Hope this is a help to you.

Capn Jack · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 11:27 am Post subject: Flush outs

When using a hose to flush your engines. Be cautious about using too much pressure Smile

Only use enough pressure to ensure water flow out of the exhaust. Too much pressure can damage the impellor vanes in the water pump. Sad

Personally I use a large plastic garbage can,(with a couple of table spoons of detergent) that way I know it's the pump doing the work, not city water pressure. Wink

Jack

Wandering Sagebrush · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: Flushing engines

I agree with Jack regarding the problems with using a hose and muffs. My Honda 8 went through an impeller with less than 20 hours on the motor when I used a hose.

I am on my windows machine right now, and it isn't behaving the same as my apple, so rather than have an embedded url, here is the raw version for a thread that discusses flush bags from Quality Marine Products. They work nicely, even with a Permatrim.

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?p=108400&highlight=#108400

Steve

ddenver · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: Credit Card Caution

Please be careful when ordering any item over the web which requires you to provide your credit card number. This applies to this or any other product.

The Quality Marine Products webpage used to order these flushing bags is at the URL http://www.qualitymarineproducts.com/bb1form.htm (this is to specifically order the BB1 size bag) .

Note that this website's URL starts w/ "http://.." not "https://". The embedded "S" implies that the website uses SSL. SSL stands for Secure Sockets Layer and is a methodology used by TCP/IP (the internet's method of communication between various devices) to encrypt, validate, and authenticate data sent over the internet.

Without SSL or some other encryption method your credit card information is transmitted over the internet in clear text which is susceptible to being intercepted.

All banks, credit card companies, and most online internet vendors use SSL to protect customer data. Besides the "S" in the first part of the URL name SSL protected webpages also will display a Padlock somewhere on the webpage (placement of the padlock is different for various versions of Internet Explorer or other browsers).

This is not an indictment of the servers used by Quality Marine Products. I am merely stating that they have not gone thru the extra effort to insure the transmission of their customer's data (such as credit card #'s) is encrypted while being transmitted over the internet.

In this day and age of mass internet usage vendors should go to all extremes to insure their customers data is as well protected as possible.

Take care and be careful,
Dan

ddenver · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject:

I wound up phoning Quality Marine Products (QMP) to order one of their BB1 Flushing bags instead of using their unsecured website to order.

The gentleman I spoke to - named Bill - is apparently the owner of QMP. Bill comes across as an extremely nice, friendly, and helpful person.

Anyway, Bill says they are in the process of redoing their web site to add SSL security. They also will be adding additional products to their flushing bag offerings.

So look for their redesigned website pretty soon.

Enjoy the holiday weekend.

Dan