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BaseCampAnne



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:48 am    Post subject: cleats,fenders and tying up Reply with quote

I have been experimenting with my 22' and wonder where others place the fender lines on the middle (widest) section of our boats? It seems to me that the cleat is too low to be of use with many docks so I am guessing that most folks tie off from the grab rails on top of the boat, correct?
Thanks, Anne
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Wayne McCown



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the time I am able to use the cleats. A couple of times--at a high dock--I have had to tie off the grab rail.
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Doryman



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a fender line and plastic clip at West Marine that allows me to open the window and reach up and clip the line to the cabin handrail, all without having to go forward or outside. Works well for me and gets the fender right where it needs to be without cluttering up my cleats.

Warren

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colobear



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anne,

I installed small brackets just outside the forward sliding windows on C-Cakes and at the rear of the outside cabin wall (See C-Cakes album photo #10). With these Patti and I can just open the window and put the fender out onto the forward bracket and the stern fender is easily attached to the rear bracket. I made the fender lines (whips) the right length so they are interchangeable and added a loop so we can put a third fender over the aft cleat when we feel the need. This has been very satisfactory, quick and easy.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We put in the fold down pad eyes where necessary. Since these are thru bolted, they are strong enough for temporary mooring as well as fenders.


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lloyds



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think tying off to the grabrails is just tempting fate. I use the cleats, no matter what. You never know when someone will throw a huge wake at you or the wind might come up while you are away a short distance.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lloyds wrote:
I think tying off to the grabrails is just tempting fate. I use the cleats, no matter what. You never know when someone will throw a huge wake at you or the wind might come up while you are away a short distance.


Not sure I understand the issue you are concerned about. A wake could throw the fender on the deck, regardless of where it was tied off. Or are you envisioning a different scenario?

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Warren
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These little Perko fender hooks about armslength outside the window (part#1246DP0CHR0)


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:46 am    Post subject: Fenders through the window Reply with quote

I just don't like to carry the fender, which may be damp, or dripping wet, through the window, over the electronics, and out the aft cabin door. Thought I had it figured out, with a small diameter line running from the bottom of the fender, I could pull it up from the cockpit onto the deck/step alongside the cabin, and loop the end of the pull line over the rod holder, and it was quick and easy to deploy or haul. Worked great all last season. then we put the boat name on, and wallaah, the fender comes up right where the boat name is, and 1. hides it on the stbd side; 2. rubs on the vinyl lettering while under way, threatening to eventually wear through the letters ; and now needs another place to live when it isn't hanging down and protecting SleepyC or dragging in the water and making a big splash.

I tried swinging it forward, and can do, but then it impedes the starbd running lite. Not an issue in the daytime, but if it gets a new home I want it to work every time.

I'm open to ideas, and thanks,

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a lot of docks that have shallow overhangs and a lot of us use the taylor fenders. They can hang up under the overhangs if the timing is right. When it happens something has to give. The newer docks that are concrete and such don't have those but there are a lot of docks around puget sound that are old and wood and have overhangs to varying degrees. Even if the boat is tossed against a vertical float and pinches the fender on the way up it would be hard on a handhold.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lloyds wrote:
There are a lot of docks that have shallow overhangs and a lot of us use the taylor fenders. They can hang up under the overhangs if the timing is right. When it happens something has to give. The newer docks that are concrete and such don't have those but there are a lot of docks around puget sound that are old and wood and have overhangs to varying degrees. Even if the boat is tossed against a vertical float and pinches the fender on the way up it would be hard on a handhold.


Gotcha. Definitely a concern.

Dunno if this is relevant to that issue at all, but the trainer I hired to help me get started with the TC suggested that I put stainless steel washers on the fender whip above and below the fender itself. Supposed to provide more weight to help keep it in place. Anyone doing this?

Warren
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This fender clip has worked very well for me and as stated in some above posts, this type can be accessed from the window which is extremely handy.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frogpawg wrote:
This fender clip has worked very well for me and as stated in some above posts, this type can be accessed from the window which is extremely handy.


Is THIS the fender clip you use?

Warren
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Frogpawg



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Warren, that's it. You can see the pic much better/up close in my photo album.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dotnmarty wrote:
These little Perko fender hooks about armslength outside the window (part#1246DP0CHR0)


Do you tie a loop in your fender whip for this hook?

Thanks,
Warren
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